I.D Please Possibly UK or France?

[landmagnet]

 

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[Harry Pristis]

British, circa 1850.

 

[landmagnet]

Thank you Harry

 

[sunrunner]

I think it may be older . England had seal bottles in the 1700s . this was a rich mans personal bottle . made closer to 1790s.

 

[landmagnet]

Wow! Thanks for the information. I will now try to trace the family and report back!

 

[Harry Pristis]

I think it may be older . England had seal bottles in the 1700s . this was a rich mans personal bottle . made closer to 1790s.

It could be older than the 1850s . . . I thought I saw a 3-piece mold seam, but maybe not. If landmagnet will provide us with a better description of the bottle -- with an image of the lip finish -- we can be more certain about a date.

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[cje]

It does look like a 3-piece-mold.

 

[epackage]

A great bottle, worthy of the Corning Museum, 1770-80 in their opinion..... Corton is an area specially designated for wine in France.

Collection Search | Corning Museum of Glass

 

[Harry Pristis]

Corton is more than an area of Burgundy. "Corton" is also used as a varietal name for wine from that limited area of Burgundy. I think the Englishman who had the bottle produced wanted to identify the contents. It may have been a bit of a brag because Corton was limited in availability.
This post is a good lesson for me on the importance of the lip finish in dating a bottle.

 

[landmagnet]

It could be older than the 1850s . . . I thought I saw a 3-piece mold seam, but maybe not. If landmagnet will provide us with a better description of the bottle -- with an image of the lip finish -- we can be more certain about a date.

More pics added to post. Hope they are what you need.

 

[sunrunner]

free blown .

 

[Harry Pristis]

More pics added to post. Hope they are what you need.

Yes, that's much better. The bottle is not free blown, but is dip-mold blown. Those that suggested late 1700s are certainly correct.

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[landmagnet]

Thanks for all your information. this is a new subject for me! How to value it though ??

 

[epackage]

Thanks for all your information. this is a new subject for me! How to value it though ??

In a well advertised sale I would think $1000-1500 wouldn't be a stretch, possibly a bit more

 

[gleaner1]

Excellent post and comments. That surely is in stupendous condition for its age. Must have been hidden away in a wall or attic. That pontil is stupendous I reckon it could gag a horse.

 

[gleaner1]

epackage has me thinking.....I could see this on Hecklers being offered estimated for a bit more, maybe 2 to 4 thousand US. Its just so clean. Are there ANY cracks, chips, scratches, at all, regardless of size? Is it a quart? How tall? Diameter?

 

[landmagnet]

Please go back to epackage's first reply which gives the link to the Corning museum's example, which gives height weight etc. There are very few marks and no chips at all. Being in the uk I am not aware of Hecklers, but will look them up.
Thanks for your interest and comments. That would be something if that value is correct !!

 

[Goldenplug]

Would you mind telling us how you acquired it?

 

[landmagnet]

Would you mind telling us how you acquired it?

Sure, been in the family from the days of great grandfather. No one knowa how he aquired it. The smart guess is that the bottle was originally owned by a member of the Longman Publishing Company. There was a william longman who came across the pond in the 1670's to Virginia, and william longmans in the publishing company later.
That's all we know!!

 

[Bass]

Great post and follow-up by all involved in this thread. Very educational for all and we could use more interaction like this. [emoji106]