I forgot to mention.

[lesjcbs]

ART: Here are the results I had from doing the exercise you sent. IN ALL PHASES OF THIS EXERCISE, EVERYTHING HAPPENED EXACTLY AS YOU SAID IT WOULD.

When I baited my rods with a Penney, my rods crossed over the Penney only. With no Penney on the end, it crossed over all items (All metal mode you might say). In the last phase, using one rod was new to me and something I have not done before.

In the past when I dowsed, both rods were pointed forwards. The rod in my right hand is the one that always starts moving first and it has always moved to the left, never to the right. After it has moved to the left a little ways, I start to turn left also. I can usually tell how far away the target is by how fast the rods are turning.

 

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[lesjcbs]

ART: If I had jumped the fence and found something and posted it, I would just be called a liar by the skeptics. If they jumped the fence with me and watched me pulled a target from the ground they would claim I planted it there and thus knew where it was all along etc, etc, etc.

You just have to feel sorry for them is all.

So blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah they go on all day long.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Hey lesjcbs.. OK so far we know you can find a penny. Now put the penny in the center. Slowly walk a square starting in the north or south direction about 10 feet from the penny. When the rods start to cross you may have to change direction so they cross equal. Now drop one rod to your side and see where the other one points. Now drop that rod and move the other one up.
The reason I drop a rod is to determine which direction to follow the signal line. In my experience the rods can cross slowly or fast on two identical targets. My rods will only cross on a silver dime when I am less than 60 paces from it..Most of my experience is with placer gold. A ¾ oz nugget can only be picked up if it is less than ¾ of a mile away. A ½ oz nugget so a little less than a ½ mile. Your experience may be different so it is up to you to figure out.
When you want to practice my methods you need to put some Masking tape on the floor or patio…Use a compass to lay it out in a North-South and East-West pattern. Later you can add some kind of covers to find out if you can locate covered targets…..Only after a lot of practice should go into the field…

 

[aarthrj3811]

~SWR~

Actually... if you jumped the fence you'd be called a trespasser and a thief

Again you are showing your lack of knowledge..there are millions of acres of BLM land in the western USA that are fenced. Most of them are leased to people to graze cattle and sheep or to the Military. You can go onto them legally as long as you do not bother the cattle and sheep and shut all gates that you open..Some of these also serve the public as Off Road Vehicle Parks..You will also find that fenced Military Land can also be entered if it is not posted...You will also find a lot of Indian land that the BLM has control of..
lesjcbs did just fine...He asked the locals as they usually know the rules from the local BLM Managemen....Art

http://www.ohwy.com/fl/b/blm.htm
The Bureau of Land Management (BLM), an agency within the U.S. Department of the Interior, administers 262 million acres of America's public lands, located primarily in 12 Western States. The BLM sustains the health, diversity, and productivity of the public lands for the use and enjoyment of present and future generations.

 

[lesjcbs]

ART: If I understand what you are debating with SWR, you are correct. When you get past city or town limits and into the BLM areas, which as you pointed is vast and used for many purposes, yellow or white signs on gates say: "Please keep gate closed."

Now whether or not one closes gates on BLM land, or any other land for that matter, to keep ranchers cattle from straying onto highways has absolutely nothing to do with how affective dowsing is when searching for targets in vast open areas such as what I posted. Maybe SWR is a fence jumper which goes to his lack of integrity and the disrespect he has for others and their property. Maybe he is even one who actually promotes fence jumping. If he is, then he is one of those few that is giving the treasure hunting hobby / people a bad name and reputation, dowsing or no dowsing. Maybe a night in jail for him from trespassing onto military or private property might do him wonders.

After I left that private property in Vernon that I did not have permission to go on, with the exception of city limits and private property, it is open country. Now had you pointed out a target for me to search for in one of those other areas, unless it was high up in the mountains (East Tintic range) that would be harder to get to, I might have been able to go to it. That's just how it is.

 

[lesjcbs]

Does anyone see a target in this picture?

ART: What I learned from that exercise is what I bait my rods with, that's what is going to be detected. Right?

After that, it's a matter of developing the technique to be able to detect it from a great distance away.

Thanks.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Hey JR,,I get gold and silver less than 75 yards north of the red dot...Art

 

[tinpan]

Ah yes... the dowsers alibi of posting pictures where a possible treasure "might" be found... without ever find anything.

"Found it... but, didn't dig it up" slogan/motto of dowsers was born this way.

Nice pictures, nice alibi and nice empty pockets

So right you are ?? heard all about how they where going to prove us wrong> Still dowser"s post no finds.

tinpan

 

[lesjcbs]

tinpan:

You are way behind the discussion and need an update. You say: “Still dowser"s post no finds.”

I ALREADY DID AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO AS TIME GOES ON! I wonder why SWR didn't tell you about them or did you simply ignore them, pretending they aren't there? Could it be he knows you are wrong and wants to keep you in the dark so you can keep looking like you already do? Of course, he Mocked them but that doesn't change the fact I found them while dowsing.

The following posts have pictures of things I found while dowsing: #149, #151, #164, #173, #176 #183, and #207.

Post #231 is where you posted your finds. There you say: “i don,t just use a Md i use recorded history and many other methods.”

WELL GOOD FOR YOU! WOW WEE! WHOOP-DEE-DOO! If you fancy yourself as the only one who does research, you are greatly mistaken.

BTW tinpan, READ AND TAKE HEED. At post #234, you took a cheap shot at my religion. You do it again and I will put your posts on IGNORE! You either grow up or TAKE YOUR TRASH AND GARBAGE AND SLITHER OVER TO SOMEWHERE ELSE! GOT IT?

 

[lesjcbs]

Folks, notice how the skeptics in this thread and their approach has evolved?

At first it was: Dowsing doesn't work. Science has discredited it.

Second it was: If dowsing works, post your finds.

So I posted some things I found and now they say: Those things aren't real treasure.

DAH. Laughable. It's obvious they are in real trouble with their claims.

More pictures of finds coming soon.

 

[lesjcbs]

Do you see a target in this picture?

This is the reamains of an old stone house built back in the late 1800's. Travelers in horse drawn wagons came by and stayed here often on their way to other places. It's an area I can get to fairly easily.

Thanks,

Les.

 

[10claw]

les, please don't be too hard on tinpan, he is another of randy's clones and as you know clones only say what is programmed in .
for instance swr has not had one decent thought after randy scraped off part of his brain. that is, if he had one to start with.
if you found a ton of gold and posted a picture of it they would still jerk, jump and run right back to randy boy.

 

[tinpan]

les, please don't be too hard on tinpan, he is another of randy's clones and as you know clones only say what is programmed in .
for instance swr has not had one decent thought after randy scraped off part of his brain. that is, if he had one to start with.
if you found a ton of gold and posted a picture of it they would still jerk, jump and run right back to randy boy.

tinpan has found more gold with their research and metal detector than you'd ever hope to find with your dowsing wands. Compared to tinpan... you are simply another big-mouth loser

The truth is recorded on TN dowser forum by Dowsers Fact 668 topics with 12001 posts in 7 years and finally a couple of finds in the last few days. Added after the fact. Insult all you like , The truth is there for all to see .
tinpan

 

[tinpan]

les, please don't be too hard on tinpan, he is another of randy's clones and as you know clones only say what is programmed in .
for instance swr has not had one decent thought after randy scraped off part of his brain. that is, if he had one to start with.
if you found a ton of gold and posted a picture of it they would still jerk, jump and run right back to randy boy.

Gee you got all the answers . if i remember correctly les has not found a ton of gold not even a gram so where in the hell did you get this rubbish .


tinpan

 

[10claw]

another time that the clones can't read english. so tinpan what the hell you been smoking. i thought clones were disallowed smoking.
go back and look real close and see if you can find the word IF IF IF IF. got it yet? IF you girl scouts need

 

[aarthrj3811]

"Actually... if you jumped the fence you'd be called a trespasser and a thief"
Your post, nor you link negates my statement.
Typical for you, Art. You tend to post crap, and expect your gullible followers to chew it up an swallow it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trespasser
In the law of tort, property, and criminal law a trespasser is a person who commits the act of trespassing on a property, that is, without the permission of the owner. Being present on land as a trespasser thereto creates liability in the trespasser, so long as the trespass is intentional. At the same time, the status of a visitor as a trespasser (as opposed to an invitee or a licensee) defines the legal rights of the visitor if they are injured due to the negligence of the property owner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft
Theft is the name of a statutory offence in California, Canada, England and Wales, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, and Victoria.
The word is also used as an informal shorthand term for some crimes against property, such as burglary, embezzlement, larceny, looting, robbery, shoplifting, fraud and sometimes criminal conversion. In some jurisdictions, theft is considered to be synonymous with larceny; in others, theft has replaced larceny.
Someone who carries out an act of or makes a career of theft is known as a thief, and the act of theft is known as stealing, thieving, or sometimes filching.
Could you please tell us how we could be called trespasser for entering Our own property that we have given the government permission to administer?

 

[tinpan]

another time that the clones can't read english. so tinpan what the hell you been smoking. i thought clones were disallowed smoking.
go back and look real close and see if you can find the word IF IF IF IF. got it yet? IF you girl scouts need

if didn,t happen . Fact the rest is Yap, yap, yap, yap, Sounds like a lame dog to me.

tinpan

 

[tinpan]

"Actually... if you jumped the fence you'd be called a trespasser and a thief"
Your post, nor you link negates my statement.
Typical for you, Art. You tend to post crap, and expect your gullible followers to chew it up an swallow it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trespasser
In the law of tort, property, and criminal law a trespasser is a person who commits the act of trespassing on a property, that is, without the permission of the owner. Being present on land as a trespasser thereto creates liability in the trespasser, so long as the trespass is intentional. At the same time, the status of a visitor as a trespasser (as opposed to an invitee or a licensee) defines the legal rights of the visitor if they are injured due to the negligence of the property owner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft
Theft is the name of a statutory offence in California, Canada, England and Wales, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, and Victoria.
The word is also used as an informal shorthand term for some crimes against property, such as burglary, embezzlement, larceny, looting, robbery, shoplifting, fraud and sometimes criminal conversion. In some jurisdictions, theft is considered to be synonymous with larceny; in others, theft has replaced larceny.
Someone who carries out an act of or makes a career of theft is known as a thief, and the act of theft is known as stealing, thieving, or sometimes filching.
Could you please tell us how we could be called trespasser for entering Our own property that we have given the government permission to administer?

Its doesn,t matter where you go in the world , those who make up stories are called B.S.ERs

tinpan

 

[aarthrj3811]

~tinpan

Gee you got all the answers . if i remember correctly les has not found a ton of gold not even a gram so where in the hell did you get this rubbish .

Darn..Les is just a beginner..He wants to learn more so as to increase his enjoyment of his chosen hobby...If he should find a ton of gold I doubt if we will ever hear about it....Art

 

[tinpan]

Hi dowser Heres a pic for you to dowse. Please clearly mark what you think may be here . Your big chance to prove me wrong.

tinpan