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[NC field hunter]

Can any one tell me what type of point this is, or would be if complete?















Flaking is odd and it's wide. If it weren't so wide, I'd call it guilford.



Here are some I found today.



















Thanks for any help!!

 

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[wvwildman]

nice find congrats HH

 

[bci101tractors]

Nice finds N.C.,
Great shout out to the Gratful Dead as well...keep'em coming!!!
BCI

 

[rock]

I like that first one. Is it really that color of green?

 

[NC field hunter]

Nice finds N.C.,
Great shout out to the Gratful Dead as well...keep'em coming!!!
BCI

I love the dead!

 

[bci101tractors]

Here, here...lol

I love the dead!

 

[bmartin0693]

Nice! I had a serrated Kirk with the same looking material, but the tip was clipped off. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm going to over shoot and say it's an Early Archaic Lance.

 

[NC field hunter]

Nice! I had a serrated Kirk with the same looking material, but the tip was clipped off. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm going to over shoot and say it's an Early Archaic Lance.

You may be correct. I was thinking the thickness and the flaking style looked paleo. Could a rhyolite Clovis waste away until the flute is no longer easily noticed. One side of the base is broken. Honestly, other than the three or four obvious points here in NC, I'm awful at typing. I'm thinking this could be a paleo blade. If not, it's woodland. I always confuse the two. Compared to pops Folsom, the flaking style looks really close to me. I'll post the Folsom one mo time again, for comparison of flaking.

 

[bmartin0693]

Your not seeing random style flaking, w/ no pattern? You said it looked odd & wide. I'm not a real genius at this so I could be wrong.

 

[bmartin0693]

Well I know it's at least early archaic. I figured it was that b/c that material is used a lot during the early archaic age. I wish I still had that Kirk, it looked about the same wet too. I gave that and some scrapers to a friend.

 

[NC field hunter]

I like that first one. Is it really that color of green?

The first pic is wet. It is pretty much that color green. This is a strange find.

 

[Brandiwine]

Laying here listening to Jerry Garcia band Oregon state prison show...and logged in here and once again surprised that so many of us have so much in common. I am well known for my obsession with and love of music and it all started with the dead. I'm obsessed with constantly finding amazing music and sharing it with others. Current on my list of old and new faves: Shovels and rope, justin townes earle, Hayes Carll, redbird, rubber knife gang, whiskeytown, honeycutters, Todd snider, guy Clark, townes van zandt, yonder mountain, Jason eady, Chris Smithers and trampled by turtles. Warning: it's eclectic...from bluegrass to jamgrass to Texas singer songwriters (Texas country IS NOT like Nashville top 40 crap) and a little blues....

Oh and nice freaking finds.

 

[dutchtoga]

The feeling I'm getting by looking at your find is that it was discarded. It doesn't look finished either it broke during napping or a thousand other reasons. To me it looks like a knife blade. There's that green flint from anyway? The old timer around me say it comes from Michigan. Nice finds.

 

[GatorBoy]

Laying here listening to Jerry Garcia band Oregon state prison show...and logged in here and once again surprised that so many of us have so much in common. I am well known for my obsession with and love of music and it all started with the dead. I'm obsessed with constantly finding amazing music and sharing it with others. Current on my list of old and new faves: Shovels and rope, justin townes earle, Hayes Carll, redbird, rubber knife gang, whiskeytown, honeycutters, Todd snider, guy Clark, townes van zandt, yonder mountain, Jason eady, Chris Smithers and trampled by turtles. Warning: it's eclectic...from bluegrass to jamgrass to Texas singer songwriters (Texas country IS NOT like Nashville top 40 crap) and a little blues....

Oh and nice freaking finds.

Man! I could hang with you.

 

[GatorBoy]

N.C... it definitely looks Guilford related.. I'd probably call it a Guilford blade.
That rayholite sure looks nice wet.

 

[NC field hunter]

Laying here listening to Jerry Garcia band Oregon state prison show...and logged in here and once again surprised that so many of us have so much in common. I am well known for my obsession with and love of music and it all started with the dead. I'm obsessed with constantly finding amazing music and sharing it with others. Current on my list of old and new faves: Shovels and rope, justin townes earle, Hayes Carll, redbird, rubber knife gang, whiskeytown, honeycutters, Todd snider, guy Clark, townes van zandt, yonder mountain, Jason eady, Chris Smithers and trampled by turtles. Warning: it's eclectic...from bluegrass to jamgrass to Texas singer songwriters (Texas country IS NOT like Nashville top 40 crap) and a little blues....

Oh and nice freaking finds.

Thanks for the list. Music makes the world turn. The GD is the best band. Otis Redding, best vocalist. I've been jamming Mofro for a few years now. I like the alternative country also. Old crow and the Avett Bros. all good. Still love Widespread too.

 

[dlos]

Grateful Dead!! It is amazing the things we have in common....

Rusty, I'm thinking that may a preform or a crude Guilford. That color material is very common down here and throughout throughout the Piedmont. Most of my finds are of that material.

 

[Brandiwine]

Thanks for the list. Music makes the world turn. The GD is the best band. Otis Redding, best vocalist. I've been jamming Mofro for a few years now. I like the alternative country also. Old crow and the Avett Bros. all good. Still love Widespread too.

I can dig some Otis and put him at the top of the list of vocalists. I'm a history nut as well and study the story behind the music, so the whole Beat Generation > beatniks > hippy movement and how that music shaped our nation is pretty interesting. If you like the dead and enjoy history read up on the merry pranksters, the acid tests of the 60s led by ken Kesey (author of one flew over the cuckoos nest). Mountain Girl, Jerry's wife was a prankster and both played a part in the movement. Good stuff. And ol' Otis falls into the history as well and of course him, Janis Joplin and Janice's girlfriend have a little history too...if you get what I'm slinging...lol.

I'm a quintessential Appalachian girl, who lives on the same land my ancestors have since settling in the area - pre civil war, coal miners daughter, raised in the "holler"....so traditional music is a big part of who I am. Alt country/folk/americana just play off of that love. But I can appreciate a good artist from about every genre.

Old crow - seen them a bunch, but gave em up after Willie Watson left the band. If you dig them you should be YouTube-ing: Hackensaw Boys, trampled by turtles, and yonder mountain (yonder is the Grateful Dead of bluegrass).

Ok I need to stop...this is an artifact forum...not the "hippy run amuck with musical history and inspiration" forum. That is all. Word.

 

[Brandiwine]

Man! I could hang with you.

Many have said this before. Few have been able to survive. Lol.
I could out "hang" them all in my day. Still give everyone a run for their money. I was an old soul at 18...I'm now a geezer at 35. After all, my evening (after the domesticated life of coaching softball, etc) was spent reading Mother Earth news which led to more research on the food industry (one of the worst problems in this god forsaken country - comes right after shipping every industry overseas and then wondering why the economy and unemployment are a problem...duh). I followed that up with a biography of Doc Watson (one I actually hadn't read) and more research in traditional music - Merle Travis, Flatpicking styles, etc.

Can you say "dork, dork, dork"....but hey I got to read something while I have sip a little whiskey, chased with a miller light....and........

Oh,what did I just write on the previous reply? This is an artifact forum.

Gator, everyone's welcome in WV...bring it. I'm headed your way this summer. I've lost the vacation battle...Watch out Disney, here we come. Arghhhhhhhh

 

[NC field hunter]

I can dig some Otis and put him at the top of the list of vocalists. I'm a history nut as well and study the story behind the music, so the whole Beat Generation > beatniks > hippy movement and how that music shaped our nation is pretty interesting. If you like the dead and enjoy history read up on the merry pranksters, the acid tests of the 60s led by ken Kesey (author of one flew over the cuckoos nest). Mountain Girl, Jerry's wife was a prankster and both played a part in the movement. Good stuff. And ol' Otis falls into the history as well and of course him, Janis Joplin and Janice's girlfriend have a little history too...if you get what I'm slinging...lol.

I'm a quintessential Appalachian girl, who lives on the same land my ancestors have since settling in the area - pre civil war, coal miners daughter, raised in the "holler"....so traditional music is a big part of who I am. Alt country/folk/americana just play off of that love. But I can appreciate a good artist from about every genre.

Old crow - seen them a bunch, but gave em up after Willie Watson left the band. If you dig them you should be YouTube-ing: Hackensaw Boys, trampled by turtles, and yonder mountain (yonder is the Grateful Dead of bluegrass).

Ok I need to stop...this is an artifact forum...not the "hippy run amuck with musical history and inspiration" forum. That is all. Word.

Hey, I started the thread we can talk about the pranksters! I wish I had their bus and wander if Further fest was named after their bus. Do you know? Yep, the acid test!! He was in the military and volunteered to be a lab rat. Afterward, he was an enlightened individual. I'll for sure check those bands out on your list. I'm not in an area with a happening music scene. I really wish I were. I didn't know Big O and Janis were friends. I get what you slinging! They were both greats and it is tragic they left so soon. I wanted more of them. I think we are surfing the same wave. Good music, nature, and just being real. Glad you popped up and said what's up!