Ideas of provenance for Non Florida, Non Personal Finds?

[tomclark]

Some pieces given to me over the years, forgot provenance and really don't collect anything but personal finds from my region...... This has been a yearly post for me, LOL. I wonder if anyone can look at these and say "BINGO!" because they recognize the material and types.

These first pieces were all found on one farm all I can remember is "somewhat" upper SE US and that can be from TN to AK , not the carolinas, nor GA or FL. Maybe Tx.....but I don't think so. These were in a small box with many other broken pieces and some other interesting pieces of limerock. and these odd clayish, fossilish, beadish things
and these what I believe are truly drilled flat pebbles, there were some that were not modified by humans with them....

I thought seeing these other things would help narrow the region down.

Anyone recognize these types or material??







This piece was given to me in NJ when I was a kid. The collector was a professional arch and all I can remember is that he said it was a nice piece....... It doesn't look like any material I've seen, though I have seen some similarly odd patina from Europe.... Have no idea and N. American types really don't fit....like Abosolo.... Any recognition here?? Thanks!

 

[unclemac]

I see those clay bead looking things so often I ignore them, where I am from they would be remnants from sand shrimp burrow necks...semi fossilized. I have a jar full of them.

 

[newnan man]

Tom, the 1st. Pic looks like some material I have from Tennessee.

 

[theviking]

The pieces in the center of the frame, just below the penny, look like Fort Payne chert. I think Fort Payne out crops in Alabama, but found in a couple different states in the south east. I think I guessed Guilford on the last piece last time, I'll go with maybe a Lerma round base this time, I think they usually have a ground base. Material looks like heavily patinated Jasper, maybe mottled Jasper.

 

[unclemac]

your large point look a whole bunch like what I have seen out in the PNW...cascade points

Cascade Series

 

[tomclark]

TN and AL were the two states I thought the person probably told me.....
Thanks!!

The last larger piece has unusual basal thinning by flaking.

 

[GatorBoy]

That last piece does look oddly African

 

[unclemac]

...yeah those African pieces have been showing up on EBAY as Columbia River points for several years now....similar styles AND similar stones. I have personally found EVERY one of those same style points that you just displayed!

 

[GatorBoy]

Those are the actual artifacts that came from that cave in South Africa

 

[unclemac]

...yep and the style transcends time and place.