Identification for 8 Reales Cob

[Ottokapod]

I am totally novice in collecting Spanish cobs. Would you help me to identify those 8 reales pieces?

 

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[Mackaydon]

Welcome to Treasure Net !!
The coin on the right is Mexican (Mexico City mint) during the period 1705-1723 as noted by the assayer's initial, 'J', which (to these eyes) appears to be under the o/M mintmark on the left side of the shield.
How did you come to possess these; find or buy?
Don.......
PS: The coins on the left are not Mexican.

 

[Ottokapod]

I am glad to find you!!!
I've bought a total of 15 cob coins, but without knowing nothing about them. After a little research on the net I've found out that there's a book-reference of Frank Sedwick.

 

[Mackaydon]

Yes, it's Daniel Sedwick's book entitled "The Practical Book of Cobs".
You can also go on Sedwick's website --Shipwreck Coins and Artifacts of all Nations - Spanish Colonial & Latin American Coins by Daniel Frank Sedwick, LLC --and view his auction catalogs (archived and up-coming) for addition information.

Post additional pics of more coins if you wish. No doubt they may all be ID-ed by many others on TN. There is also a separate forum here for Spanish coins where you may also post your pics and Qs.
Don........

 

[Ottokapod]

Thank you very much for your help, Don !!!
I'll post all of them as soon as I take some pictures of them.

 

[realeswatcher]

Upper left is a Potosi 8R, 1620s.

Lower left is a Potosi 8R, mid-late 1640s.

Upper right is Mexico, Philip II-Philip III (ca. 1580s-1617). Don, that's assayer F... Hapsburg shield. Assayer J 1715 Fleet-type pieces are BOURBON shield........

Very nice, similar patina on all three - I especially like the 1640s Potosi. What country are you out of? I would assume these to be a small old hoard of some sort.

 

[Mackaydon]

realeswatcher,
I stand corrected; thanks.
Don...
PS: Hapsburg and assayer "F" for sure. (I changed glasses.)

 

[Ottokapod]

Thank you again for your help!
These cobs belonged to a collector only a small part of his collection is in my hand.
May I show you two more 8 reales pieces?

 

[Mackaydon]

Coin on the right appears to be from Mexico City when the assayer "P" was in office; i.e. 1634-1665.
If correct, Sedwick writes this type of coin is typical of cobs that were "salvaged from the Concepcion, sunk in 1641."
Don.......

 

[vor]

On left Potosi, Munoz, 1616-1617.

 

[Ottokapod]

Thank you once again for your precious information!!!
Would you allow me to show you some photos from the rest of my tiny collection?
Here are some 4 reales pieces.

 

[realeswatcher]

Most notable of the 4R you posted is the first piece - Toledo mint, assayer P - which has a fairly clear 1639 date.

However they got to that collector, I'm confident these all came from a well-preserved land hoard at some point... all clustered fairly narrowly in the 1610s-1640s range and all with similar old patina. They're almost certainly from somewhere in Europe or the Near East with all those homeland Spain types present (of the 4R, one is Mexico, one is Potosi, and the other 5 are from various homeland Spain mints). Nice grouping...

 

[Ottokapod]

And these are the last part of my newly acquired collections of cobs. Three pieces of 2 reales.

 

[mercury1]

Ottokapod, those are some nice looking cobs you have acquired. I don't know much about cobs other then occasionally some lucky treasure hunter finds one, but I was wondering generally, what are they worth. Are they valuable enough that counterfeiting is a concern?

 

[Mackaydon]

Coin on the right looks like Seville; early 1620s (with the "R" assayer's mark).
Coin on the top left also appears to have a 162X date. Bottom: 1627.
Don..

 

[philipj]

Please help Identify 8 reales?

Dear Sirs,

I'm trying to identify a coin recently given to me by my father... My guess is somewhere in the 1620's? Please see attached photos. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

[Mackaydon]

Looks like a 4R from Potosi between 1649 and 1651 based on the assayer's mark of a big "O" with a dot inside; the mark of Juan Rodriquez de Roas. The denomination 4R is represented by the four 'bars' under the 'O'.
Don.......

 

[Booty Salvage]

That's not a 4 reale. It says viii if you look closely. There was a transitional period during Phillip the IV where there was some 8s that had the Arabic numeral and some with Roman numerals. Also that "O" is not the assayers initials the assayer is on the left side of the legend and it is a "T" assayer. That coin is likely from the 1620s-1630s potosi mint Phillip the IV 8 reales. The "O" was the last letter of the word Ocho meaning 8.

 

[slowwevo]

Nicely done booty

 

[NJnuggetpirate]

i want to find a cob coin so bad =(