Indian or not?? What is it??

[kytrader007]

Buddy of mine brought this by wanted a few other opinions of what it might really be

 

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[kytrader007]

lol might be i dont have a clue he brought it in thinking he had a big money piece and would love nothing more than to smash his dreams lol... just trying to figure out if anyone has a clue what it really might be

 

[One mans trash...]

Well, it's really odd. I enhanced the photo some. It looks to me almost what you'd make as a prank for someone to dig up. Thos circles within the "ears" are really precise. And I fancy I can see inside them something that looks like propellers(?) that exhibit the bending effect that wasn't ever seen in moving objects until photography was invented. Now, of course, we take it for granted and always use it to show motion. Like the idea of cars distorted and kind of leaning forward with oblong wheels to suggest speed. Prior to photography, where the effect came from an object moving past a vertical shutter, no one would understand it.

(Or maybe it depicts an alien fan driven vehicle. Oops. Better not suggest that. Weird ideas take root too easily with some.)

 

[Monty]

M I C.......K E Y.......What's it made of? Looks like porcelan? Monty

 

[kytrader007]

no its not porcelain, looked like some knock off marble or something.. i dont have a clue, he was here with it long enough for me to snag a few pictures and that was it... i have never seen anything like it before.. and he wouldnt tell me where he really found it.. hard to believe anything that man says anyway, but i really dont think it is anything worth anything.. maybe a childs play toy.. i dont know..

 

[AKiwi]

Maybe the weight off a child's spinning top and the hole was where the wooden dowel was shoved in?

 

[kytrader007]

perhaps.. I cant really think of what it could have been...

 

[NGE]

P-Cake from mens room at Disneyland?

 

[kytrader007]

Gosh, I hope not, now, I had my hands all over it.. ewwwwww

 

[Monty]

P-cakes? One of my fellow Tnetters said they were breath mints! l'm naming no names. M nty

 

[drgest]

My mother once came out of a porta potty and was complaining there was no water to rinse with after using "the soap" that was in the plastic "sink" next to the toilet seat. Bless her heart.

 

[traderoftreasures]

could be a replica refering to a native game that was played using sticks to roll around a round object.

 

[DCMatt]

A spindle whorl?

DCMatt

 

[traderoftreasures]

the center hole is to squared off to be old

 

[searcher]

Kinda looks like some of the fishing net weights I have seen in the past.

What are the tattoos? They look interesting.

 

[kytrader007]

Old man has some skulls on his fingers and a spiderweb and a star with flames on his hand... we are tattoo nuts lol..

 

[randazzo1]

YES - Indian - looks like limestone - and I would venture to say that its the top of a limestone pipe pre-contact period - mid-late woodland

I'll find a picture.

 

[randazzo1]

Maybe i got a little ahead of myself with the pipe ID - its a little big and it doesn't appear to have borken off of the pipe body - that said - I saw one very similar to this at the native american collection in the basement of the bridgeton nj public library.

See picture of pipe here http://www.uiowa.edu/~osa/learn/ancient/groundstone.html

groundstone limestone at least - and design makes one think pipe mayeb atlatl weight or something else that wasn't just utilitarian.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I dont have the slightest idea but the etching appears to show 2 of these wheels.

Try posting in American Indian Artifacts. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/board,89.0.html

 

[lostcauses]

looks to be a China artifact or a reproduction of one.