Indian spear weight ? banner stone ? 2 better pics

allen · Jul 18, 2010

I was walking through my father in laws plowed field yesterday
when I noticed something laying just on the outside of one of
the rows and picked it up and took it in to show Dave and he
thinks its an Indian spear weight or some ceremonial piece.
What do you all think it could be, its about 6 inches long and
is made out of some type of rock with circles in it.
Better pictures will follow when my sister in law brings my camera back.

shaun7 · Jul 18, 2010

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That's nice Allen, whatever it is :icon_thumleft:

allen · Jul 18, 2010

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shaun7 said:
That's nice Allen, whatever it is
My father in law thinks its a indian spear weight.

I didnt realize the pics was dark until I posted them
and forgot the cardinal rule, I didnt put anything in
for a size reference, but I will when i get my camera back.

haybudden2 · Jul 18, 2010

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Spear weight.........uuuh.....?

Woodland Detectors · Jul 18, 2010

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Geez Allen!
I have been searching for 20 minutes now for a match.
Whatever you have discovered may very well make the banner.
I think that is a very nice well preserved relic. What a beautiful piece :icon_thumleft:

gondiggn · Jul 18, 2010

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Wow! Looks like you have a pick bannerstone. I have only ever found pieces :'(

Believed to be weights used for the atlatl but there is an ongoing controversy about their original use. Sounds like it might be banded slate since you mentioned circles in the stone. Not an expert just an occasional artifact hunter for 15yrs. It would pay to get it checked out, they can bring several hundred. Nice Find.

naturegirl · Jul 18, 2010

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allen, post this over in the Artifacts section. Nice find :icon_thumleft:

GopherDaGold · Jul 18, 2010

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Can't wait to see the better pics! I have a feeling this thread is gonna go places! That's a beauty!

romeo-1 · Jul 18, 2010

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Looks like a bannerstone to me too! Post it in the Native Artifacts forum...great find if it is!

mainer · Jul 18, 2010

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I'd say banner stone aswell. And a nice one at that Allen. Get a positive ID and better picks and You'll be on the banner for sure. :thumbsup:

AMorgan · Jul 18, 2010

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I agree with the ID as a bannerstone.... how fitting it would be if it made banner, as it is pretty nice as far as bannerstones go...

Alan

Michigan Badger · Jul 18, 2010

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Is this item stone or iron?

The Banner Stones I know of are stone and date from 500 to 1800 AD. They range from 4 to 8 inches. Anyway, most believe they were ceremonial pieces.

Most known types:
knobbed
hourglass
shuttle
double cresent
bow tie
bottle
butterfly
sugar loaf

badger

Woodland Detectors · Jul 18, 2010

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Here's a mexican Banner close but not even as pretty as your Banner.

This Bannerstone is selling for 300

That Banner OF YOURS, has my Banner vote! :icon_thumleft:

allen · Jul 18, 2010

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My friend Tom identified it like others on here as
a banner stone and made out of banded slate.
I will get better pics as soon as my sister in law
brings my camera back, but it might be several days.

umrgolf · Jul 18, 2010

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Holy Moly Allen

I know close to nothing about Indian Artifacts but that thing is a beauty.. Banner once the better pics arrive for sure. :headbang:

allen · Jul 18, 2010

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haybudden2 said:
Spear weight.........uuuh.....?

id as a banner stone

4-H said:
Geez Allen!
I have been searching for 20 minutes now for a match.
Whatever you have discovered may very well make the banner.
I think that is a very nice well preserved relic. What a beautiful piece

It is more beautiful in person :thumbsup:

gondiggn said:
Wow! Looks like you have a pick bannerstone. I have only ever found pieces Believed to be weights used for the atlatl but there is an ongoing controversy about their original use. Sounds like it might be banded slate since you mentioned circles in the stone. Not an expert just an occasional artifact hunter for 15yrs. It would pay to get it checked out, they can bring several hundred. Nice Find.

Several others think it is a banner stone as well. :coffee2:

naturegirl said:
allen, post this over in the Artifacts section. Nice find

thank you and i just did ! :coffee2:

mainer said:
I'd say banner stone aswell. And a nice one at that Allen. Get a positive ID and better picks and You'll be on the banner for sure.

I am it makes it, itsa beauty in person, but Ill get better pics soon :thumbsup:

AMorgan said:
I agree with the ID as a bannerstone.... how fitting it would be if it made banner, as it is pretty nice as far as bannerstones go...

Alan

Thank you Alan :icon_sunny:

Michigan Badger said:
Is this item stone or iron?

The Banner Stones I know of are stone and date from 500 to 1800 AD. They range from 4 to 8 inches. Anyway, most believe they were ceremonial pieces.

Most known types:
knobbed
hourglass
shuttle
double cresent
bow tie
bottle
butterfly
sugar loaf

badger

It is made out of banded slate according to my friend Tom

4-H said:
Here's a mexican Banner close but not even as pretty as your Banner.

This Bannerstone is selling for 300

That Banner has my Banner vote

thank you

umrgolf2010 said:
Holy Moly Allen I know close to nothing about Indian Artifacts but that thing is a beauty.. Banner once the better pics arrive for sure.

thanks

dwayne sueno · Jul 18, 2010

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sweet, sweet banner stone, Allen!
can't wait to see some more pics.

Wallhangers · Jul 18, 2010

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If I were you Allen, find someone else to take pictures for you and get these photos up soon. This could be your chance to make banner and I would like to see that as a reward to all of the thousands of kind replies you have made on this forum over the years. I'm ready to vote banner, just show us the pics.

GL · Jul 18, 2010

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Bannerstone and a nice delicate shaped on at that. Probably took a long time to make and when it was lost the maker uttered several Native American swear words.
Killer find and probably worth quite a bit. Let me put it in terms a coin hunter would understand. That is the same to an Indian relic hunter as finding a gold coin is to a coin hunter. Very rare and a "heart racing, yelling, happy dance" sort of find that not many make.