Interesting Lead Pieces......

[Mona Lisa]

I found these at an old cellerhole site by the barn foundation. The buildings were abandoned before the 1900's. I really curious to what they were attached to. They seem like they could be knobs from something. They have a star inside a circle on top of them.

I didn't find these.....They're Washington Arsenal bullets......They have the same star inside them. I thought that was strange.

Any ideas would be appreciated! Thanks.​

 

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[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

diving doc
The round piece looks like a bullet. What appears to be rifeling marks are almost visible on the diameter. Not sure about the other.
Doc
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Morning Lisa, Doc, possibly shotgun slugs with extruded pseudo rifling for air rotataion which have been fired in a full choke so are partially swaged down? Size is close to 12 guage.

They should be almost hollow inside and soft lead.

TropicalTramp Till Eulenspiegle de La Mancha

 

[PBK]

possibly shotgun slugs with extruded pseudo rifling for air rotataion which have been fired in a full choke so are partially swaged down? Size is close to 12 guage.

Yep... shotgun slugs, all right. Good call!

 

[Michelle]

Very attractive slugs...if so! NICE MonaLisa.....

 

[junkdigger]

They are Foster type shotgun slugs. From measurements compared to your ruler,they were fired from a 10 guage shotgun.

 

[EDDE]

BLUNDER BUS more like!

 

[PBK]

Again, these are modern-era shotgun slugs used for deer hunting. (Foster slugs date post-1930.) As noted, the 10 gauge is generally considered a waterfowl and turkey gun; however, it is also used for large game, either with buckshot or slugs such as the ones Lisa found. More about the 10 gauge and slugs at the links below:

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1283122

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_slug

 

[PBK]

You need only do a search on "deer hunting" + "10 gauge" to confirm that 10 gauge shotguns— large and unwieldy as they may be—have been, and still are, used with slug loads for deer hunting. As for "modern," 10 gauge rifled-slug loads are readily available for purchase today:

http://www.ammobank.com/cgi-bin/cshop/store/detail.tam?xax=383183&item.ctx=:F103RS

This thread seems destined for interminable debate; so, in the spirit of good fellowship, I think I'll just move along and leave a little extra room for the rest of you to "slug" it out.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HIO: I have been wrong before, and prob will be again - hush Doc - but it is a 12 guage slug.. See 10 vrs. 12 guage diameters.

Tropical Tramp Till Eulenspiegle de La Mancha


CHICKEN PBK heheh

 

[EDDE]

BLUNDER BUSS...............

 

[jasonbo]

I saw a whites treasure hunting show cant remeber the episode but someone found the civil war bullets with stars in them were rare about 200 to 300 dollars

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Allo Doc: My remark "hush doc" was in reference to my statement of making mistakes and for you to not gleeully point them out. Not that you were mistaken or anything like that.sheesh My tiger does that constantly.

TRopical Tramp Till Eulenpiegle

 

[Mona Lisa]

Just for everybody's information....the two pieces are the same. There is a star on the top inside a circle. The design around the edge looks like it is "cut" into the objects. Not a random rifling. On the bottom, the side not shown, there is a 1/4 inch hole that is about 1/4 inch deep.

They were dug close together....about 5 1/2 inches deep.

Thanks any information you have,

Lisa

 

[SHERMANVILLE ILLINOIS]

Very interesting, and a nice find.

have a good un...........

 

[Mona Lisa]

Mona Lisa, what do you mean they are the same? Is it the piece that has the swirly pattern that has a 1/4 inch depression in it? Any other intel?

Doc

What's up, Doc? The two pieces are exactly alike. One is turned on its side .....one is top view.

 

[junkdigger]

Those Foster slugs are made with what look like rifling grooves on them. Some people think that the grooves get the slug to spin while flying through the air. Their real purpose is to allow the slug to squeeze throught the choke (a constriction near the muzzle). That slug on the right was fired through a gun with a pretty tight choke,so the "rifling" marks were smashed pretty flat. You can still buy 10 guage shotguns and they are only a tiny bit heavier than the 12 guage guns. Both work very well with slugs to fill your deer tag.

 

[DigEmAll]

This is a shotgun slug.

It is not a Foster, wrong design. 

The Foster was invented in the 30's.

I believe that your's predates that.

I'll do a bit of research and see if I can find something for ya.


BTW... Anyone want to know how Guage is determined?

 

[DigEmAll]

One other quick note...

The fins on a slugs are to impart spin.  Has nothing to do, by design, with the choke.  However this is a side benifit of the fin's design.  All older slugs were designed to be shot through a "Cylinder Bore" shotgun, one that is the same inside diameter from the end of the forcing cone to the end of the barrel.  To shoot a solid or semi-solid type slug through a choke would "blow the choke out" or stretch the barrel, possible even splitting it.

Chokes came along in the late 1800's.  I agree that this was most likely fired through a choked barrel.  So, the firing date is after the late 1800's.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

[diving doc
Everybody Give Up I think they are either finials or ferrules.
Doc
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Yer right doc they are finals.

snicker

Tropical Tramp Till

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

diving doc
And why didn't you say so sooner?
Doc
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Being diplomatic. smooch heheheheheheh