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[TN_Guest1523]

Wrong the probate was in 1824 because Thomas Beale owned property that was in dispute in another parish that had been incorporated into Jefferson Parish. The dispute was over TJB SR. selling land to TJB JR and him being an illegitimate son while there were other legitimate children that had prior claim to the properties. Later a trial which ran into the 1830's was over TJB Jr.'s real mother showing up trying to claim the property that TJB JR purchased from TJB SR which was made null and void. You are confusing the facts to match Jean Laf's train of thought.

This is a probate from a man that died in 1820 Nov in New Orleans and his probate is in 1823 June as in this Newspaper From New Orleans . I have been stating this all along that in New Orleans 1820 you died it could be until 1823 or so before your probate was done . Jr died in 1820 Sep and his probate was in 1823 .

 

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[bigscoop]

So what you are suggesting is that Sr. never died, and that all of this 1820's Thomas Beale death info is relating to Jr. only. Is this basic explanation of your summary correct?

 

[TN_Guest1523]

So what you are suggesting is that Sr. never died, and that all of this 1820's Thomas Beale death info is relating to Jr. only. Is this basic explanation of your summary correct?

Thats it Bro, there is no death of Sr at all . 1829 is the only time you see anything related to a death or probate of Sr and there is no proof at that time ether !

 

[franklin]

Thats it Bro, there is no death of Sr at all . 1829 is the only time you see anything related to a death or probate of Sr and there is no proof at that time ether !

The probate court records clearly state Thomas Beale Sr. it mentions his wife, his children by their names and ages. Are you trying to say that Thomas Beale Jr. married Thomas Beale Sr.'s wife and she had the children by Jr. instead of Sr. You are confused my friend. Badly confused believing you have deciphered any code because the Beale Codes C1, C2, & C3 are only random ciphers to make a story of fiction to make a quick buck.

 

[TN_Guest1523]

The probate court records clearly state Thomas Beale Sr. it mentions his wife, his children by their names and ages. Are you trying to say that Thomas Beale Jr. married Thomas Beale Sr.'s wife and she had the children by Jr. instead of Sr. You are confused my friend. Badly confused believing you have deciphered any code because the Beale Codes C1, C2, & C3 are only random ciphers to make a story of fiction to make a quick buck.

You had better go back over your proof you are referring to . 1829 has the letter with the children's age on it . You will find the documents from 1829 are for Sr and the documents from 1823 are for Jr . The newspaper above is proof that Jr died in 1820 and his probate was in 1823 . This was a common thing for the time of 1823 in New Orleans . Look it up for yourself, but you will see no documents for Sr before 1829 . Jefferson Parish was not created until 1825 .

 

[TN_Guest1523]

The probate court records clearly state Thomas Beale Sr. it mentions his wife, his children by their names and ages. Are you trying to say that Thomas Beale Jr. married Thomas Beale Sr.'s wife and she had the children by Jr. instead of Sr. You are confused my friend. Badly confused believing you have deciphered any code because the Beale Codes C1, C2, & C3 are only random ciphers to make a story of fiction to make a quick buck.

The fact is that Beale Jr died in 1820 Sep and his probate was in 1823 . That is a fact and no one can argue for there is proof of other probates doing the same thing . Register of Will's was a 8 year term Captain Thomas Beale was from 1811-1819 and he had a lot of people working with him if he missed the one day a month they had probate court they took over for him and some even signed his name to the documents . Very interesting !

 

[TN_Guest1523]

You had better go back over your proof you are referring to . 1829 has the letter with the children's age on it . You will find the documents from 1829 are for Sr and the documents from 1823 are for Jr . The newspaper above is proof that Jr died in 1820 and his probate was in 1823 . This was a common thing for the time of 1823 in New Orleans . Look it up for yourself, but you will see no documents for Sr before 1829 . Jefferson Parish was not created until 1825 .

 

[franklin]

I have searched all I am going to search on the matter. You are forgetting all the research lady did for someone. She said that Thomas Beale Sr. died September 1820 and Thomas Beale Jr. died in 1823. The newspaper even listed Thomas Beale Sr.'s obituary in September 1820 and said he died and was of advanced age, TJB Jr. was only 19 or 20 years old at the time is that advanced in age. Also was TJB Jr.'s wife Celeste de Grand Pre. No I don't think so. Keep twisting you may convince some people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time.

 

[TN_Guest1523]

I have searched all I am going to search on the matter. You are forgetting all the research lady did for someone. She said that Thomas Beale Sr. died September 1820 and Thomas Beale Jr. died in 1823. The newspaper even listed Thomas Beale Sr.'s obituary in September 1820 and said he died and was of advanced age, TJB Jr. was only 19 or 20 years old at the time is that advanced in age. Also was TJB Jr.'s wife Celeste de Grand Pre. No I don't think so. Keep twisting you may convince some people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time.

She was as lost as a goose too . I have her papers and she was not even close to figuring it out . That is the problem with bad information it just keeps tuning up ! Do your own work and quit using others second hand information !

 

[ECS]

Laf, you continue to combine several different Beales to create your Captain Thomas Beale that you parade across these threads in support of your pet theory and solved cipher claim.
Evidence and proof are constructed of sterner stuff!

 

[ECS]

... That is the problem with bad information it just keeps tuning up ! ...

You are the expert in that endeavor.

 

[TN_Guest1523]

Laf, you continue to combine several different Beales to create your Captain Thomas Beale that you parade across these threads in support of your pet theory and solved cipher claim.
Evidenve and proof are constructed of sterner stuff!

Do you wish to elaborate so you don't sound like a ....!

 

[TN_Guest1523]

Laf, you continue to combine several different Beales to create your Captain Thomas Beale that you parade across these threads in support of your pet theory and solved cipher claim.
Evidenve and proof are constructed of sterner stuff!

Sorry if you can't keep up .
1. Captain Thomas Beale Sr
2. Thomas Beale Jr

 

[ECS]

Do you wish to elaborate so you don't sound like a ....!

You mean "a knowledgeable researcher" ?

 

[ECS]

Sorry if you can't keep up .
1. Captain Thomas Beale Sr
2. Thomas Beale Jr

You forgetting the Lt Beale who sailed down the Mississippi you touted on other threads?

 

[TN_Guest1523]

Sorry if you can't keep up .
1. Captain Thomas Beale Sr
2. Thomas Beale Jr

2. Thomas Beale Jr died in 1820 and his probate was in 1823 .
3. William and James in the pic here died in 1820 Nov and there probate was in 1823 June-July .
This is conformation that you could in fact die in 1820 and have your probate done in 1823 .

 

[TN_Guest1523]

You forgetting the Lt Beale who sailed down the Mississippi you touted on other threads?

Actually that would be Captain Thomas Beall who went down the Mississippi River and took 3 months to do that . Do you think the army would pay 3 months pay for a boat ride down the Mississippi with a road the was only 3 week from New Orleans to Virginia . And how did his horse get on the boat too ?

 

[franklin]

Isn't it strange that was the same time the Thomas Beale from Kentucky was going to New Orleans to appear in court over a debt.

 

[TN_Guest1523]

Isn't it strange that was the same time the Thomas Beale from Kentucky was going to New Orleans to appear in court over a debt.

So, that Beale from Kentucky was a Captain too ? Or was it just Captain Thomas Beale Sr of New Orleans that had some dept in the Kentucky business he was in before or about the time he came to New Orleans ?

 

[bigscoop]

Thats it Bro, there is no death of Sr at all . 1829 is the only time you see anything related to a death or probate of Sr and there is no proof at that time ether !

Well, just for the sake of debate, then how do you explain his ability to go so completely unnoticed given his very recognizable, notable, and celebrated presence in and around New Orleans and elsewhere? are you really suggesting that, moving around as much as you declare that he did, that he managed to elude so many and even as his estate is in very public dispute? How do you account for that?