keeping coil level or not is my question..

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I have been watching dozens of "Treasure hunting America" on YouTube and it seems most of the people featured on there when metal detecting they have their coils higher on the front of the coil than on the back. I am wondering why they do this as I thought you keep the coil level with the ground. Any thoughts on this?
 
You have max depth if the coil is flat to the ground.
 
You have max depth if the coil is flat to the ground.

That's what I thought too then why so many of these big time hunters tilting their coils up?
 
They are suggesting they know what they are doing but showing they don't. One of the leading British detectorists posted lots on You Tube and tended to go fast with a slow sweep machine and slow with a fast sweep detector. Then add he rarely wound the coil cable tight up the detector shaft so that would flap with every sweep.
 
Coil flat, I sweep in slightly U shaped sweeps rather than straight back and fort sweeps since it is much easier to not tip the coil up at the end of each sweep.
 
your detector can see farther out when tipped up slightly
so target aren't out off reach
 
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Flat to the ground back to front and side to side. When I see people hunting with a pendulum swing that brings the coil up four inches on each side of their swing, or with a front coil tilt, it just makes me crazy. The coil only detects so deep, why waste it on air. I also stop periodically to adjust my coil angle if the terrain changes or it is hilly.
 
Doesnt make me crazy, I like it at the beach, it just means I can hunt behind them, they are going to find very little..






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I have never heard of the 'U' shaped swing. I'll have to give that on a try. I'm with Susan MN on this one. I also readjust coil depending on terrain. I'll give the 'U' swing a go when the snow melts here.
 
Think what gunsil meant by an upside down u shape swing was to pivot at the hips keeping your shoulders level and just widen your swing. This causes your coil to curve in the u shape path. I find myself doing this and you can still keep the coil level and cover a wider path. Treasure Hunter ya beat me to it on the love those who can't do it right, Just leaves more for me. I watched a guy searching a local park one time and he was moving at a walking pace and swinging like he was loosening up to hit a chip shot. Love this kind of competition.
 
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TH you would have loved to detect behind a guy at the beach he looked like he was hitting golf balls both ways!
I was going to say something but I figured why bother, he looked like he was doing it just so he could talk to people.
 
TH you would have loved to detect behind a guy at the beach he looked like he was hitting golf balls both ways!
I was going to say something but I figured why bother, he looked like he was doing it just so he could talk to people.

Seen it many times, I use to stop and try to explain what they were doing wrong but had one guy get nasty about it so now I say nothing and detect behind them. They turn and look sometimes and see holes where I dug targets where they were just detecting...:D






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I would rather die standing on my two feet defending our Constitution than live a lifetime on my knees......
 
A flat "U" shaped swing is easiest on the arm, especially if you have a heavy detector used with a "Swingy Thingy" or any other bungee system.
As long as sweeps are overlapping and coil is flat, targets won't be missed.
In undulating terrain, any overlapping sweep works. GL
Peace
 
I thought the same thing when I saw a guy with a CTX and 17" coil swinging away. We stopped to talk a minute, and I almost wanted to tell him to keep his coil flat until he told me paid for CTX in less than 2 months. Of course he was retired and lived a couple miles from the beach, so just having more hunting time and watch the beach conditions makes a huge difference. I've actually met 3 people in same area that have told me the same thing. One hunts very slow gridding but swings up at end of swing and 2 just roam around at a walking pace swinging the same way. I still keep a level swing whether I'm gridding slow or walking around covering more ground.
 
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Think what gunsil meant by an upside down u shape swing was to pivot at the hips keeping your shoulders level and just widen your swing. This causes your coil to curve in the u shape path. I find myself doing this and you can still keep the coil level and cover a wider path. Treasure Hunter ya beat me to it on the love those who can't do it right, Just leaves more for me. I watched a guy searching a local park one time and he was moving at a walking pace and swinging like he was loosening up to hit a chip shot. Love this kind of competition.

I don't even swivel my hips. I just start my swing about 45 degrees off my right hip and foot, arm straight, and drag the coil over the ground in an arc to about 45 degrees of my left hip, take a tiny step forward, and swing back too the right in the same arc, tiny step, and repeat. My path always has a slight bulge ahead of me from the arc, but my coil stays absolutely flat with no tip up at the ends and no ground is missed in the sweeps which are also naturally very comfortable and longer than one can comfortably make a straight side to side sweep. My coil is never very tight so it sort of rides flat over minor changes in ground levels. Of course this works best on surfaces where you can "scrub" the ground like lawns and beaches or grassless wooded areas. On cornrows in plowed fields and fields where the grass is in higher clumps I still swing in the arc but need to keep the coil a little tighter and higher to keep it level. I've been swinging for over forty years and find this way to be the most comfortable and efficient way to keep the coil perfectly level for the entire sweep. The longer arced sweep also covers more ground per sweep although it slows down the forward progress slightly. I also have my detector shaft at a length where my arm points fairly straight down to the ground at a slight angle with no bend in the elbow at all, which is a whole lot less tiring than having your elbow bent and trying to make straight swings ahead of you. This puts all the weight on your upper arm and shoulder, and never tires your elbow or forearm. Try it, you may like it.
 
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I don't even swivel my hips. I just start my swing about 45 degrees off my right hip and foot, arm straight, and drag the coil over the ground in an arc to about 45 degrees of my left hip, take a tiny step forward, and swing back too the right in the same arc, tiny step, and repeat. My path always has a slight bulge ahead of me from the arc, but my coil stays absolutely flat with no tip up at the ends and no ground is missed in the sweeps which are also naturally very comfortable and longer than one can comfortably make a straight side to side sweep. My coil is never very tight so it sort of rides flat over minor changes in ground levels. Of course this works best on surfaces where you can "scrub" the ground like lawns and beaches or grassless wooded areas. On cornrows in plowed fields and fields where the grass is in higher clumps I still swing in the arc but need to keep the coil a little tighter and higher to keep it level. I've been swinging for over forty years and find this way to be the most comfortable and efficient way to keep the coil perfectly level for the entire sweep. The longer arced sweep also covers more ground per sweep although it slows down the forward progress slightly. I also have my detector shaft at a length where my arm points fairly straight down to the ground at a slight angle with no bend in the elbow at all, which is a whole lot less tiring than having your elbow bent and trying to make straight swings ahead of you. This puts all the weight on your upper arm and shoulder, and never tires your elbow or forearm. Try it, you may like it.

Only women should swivel their hips....:D






American by birth, Patriot by choice.

I would rather die standing on my two feet defending our Constitution than live a lifetime on my knees......
 
I quit trying to help the few people I've ever swung with who enjoyed : Loose coil leads, arcing swings, tipped coils, elevated coils *more than 3 inches... usually 6* and my favorite un-balanced machines. Only a very few ever "got it" even after I dragged up finds right behind them. Just bad habits and lack of attention to detail. Funniest thing was that most of these were "prospectors" in the gold fields. Anyrate, fast swingers and wingdingers are always a fine site.... more for me when I spot them :)
 
One thing Dancer....there's still quite a few detectors around that still require a fast sweep speed for maximum depth/best discrimination.
 
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I quit trying to help the few people I've ever swung with who enjoyed : Loose coil leads, arcing swings, tipped coils, elevated coils *more than 3 inches... usually 6* and my favorite un-balanced machines. Only a very few ever "got it" even after I dragged up finds right behind them. Just bad habits and lack of attention to detail. Funniest thing was that most of these were "prospectors" in the gold fields. Anyrate, fast swingers and wingdingers are always a fine site.... more for me when I spot them :)
 

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