Ladies wore them......what could they be ? ?

[Mike in Berks]

i dug these 2 things yesterday i'm not sure if anything similar was posted here before ? if they were
can someone provide a link if not, i need your help with an ID when i dug the one with the panther
i thought i had a fob metals too thin though and it's pressed then i dug the other one
i know they were worn by women the half dollar is for size how were they used and when would
they have been used....date range ? ?






thanks for looking and any info is greatly appreciated ............. HH

 

[Old_Okie]

Your second object is clearly 1/2 of a ladies victorian 2 piece sash buckle. Been quite a few posted here. The panther head seems to me would be in the wrong orientation for this use.

Old_Okie

 

[Gypsy Heart]

The lions head looks like a watch fob

 

[Mike in Berks]

Your second object is clearly 1/2 of a ladies victorian 2 piece sash buckle. Been quite a few posted here. The panther head seems to me would be in the wrong orientation for this use.

Old_Okie

thanks for the reply Old_Okie someone else mentioned sash buckle to me an now you say it's clearly
a sash buckle i'm convinced i don't know if it's copper or brass but they sure are thin i guess thats why
they broke so easy ? the only kind i was aware of were like this and it's more heavy duty - thicker metal

but then i looked at my collection and noticed i have a similar pair the size of the panther w/attachments
could you tell me if these are sash buckles too ? ?


thanks for the help

 

[Mike in Berks]

The lions head looks like a watch fob

thats what i thought when it came out of the ground Gypsy my eyes were bulging lol
all the watchfobs i've ever seen were thicker - more solid heavy duty
i did notice after i posted it looks like at the 3, 6 ,9, and 12 o clock positions there
might have been small stones at one time ? crossed my mind too "maybe" the back was the
same as the front and somehow fastened together ? ? ?

 

[Montana Jim]

In my opinion

1 & 2. They look watch fob-ish, but, seems to be something that had more of a decorative application. Maybe horse tack ornamentation, or, more exotically, garter ornamentation... I don't know. What does the back of #2 look like?

3. Half of a victorian or edwardian woman's 2 piece belt buckle.

4. Both pieces of a two piece belt buckles... same era.

 

[Mike in Berks]

In my opinion

1 & 2. They look watch fob-ish, but, seems to be something that had more of a decorative application. Maybe horse tack ornamentation, or, more exotically, gerter ornamentation... I don't know. What does the back of #2 look like?

3. Half of a victorian or edwardian woman's 2 piece belt buckle.

4. Both pieces of a two piece belt buckles... same era.

thanks so much Montana Jim !! watch fob-ish ?, horse tack ornamentation - there was a barn at the back
of the property garter ornamentation - between the house and the barn was a large garden which is now
a manicured lawn both 1+2 were found at what would've been the garden near the barn house is 1850's
here's a photo of the back of no. 2

and i was told there were 3 different outhouses at 3 different locations the panther was found near one of
those at the rear of the property
3+4 were found at a house / business circa 1864 i knew what 3 was and now i know 4 is the same
thing thanks to you let me know what you think after you see the back of No.2 it's the
same style as the panther a thin - fragile - machine pressed image

 

[Montana Jim]

... it's the same style as the panther a thin - fragile - machine pressed image

It might be a smallish decorative belt deal I guess... but I dunno. I reserve further comment on number two and will conceed it may be part of a buckle, or part of a sash buckle. With no other point of connection on the back or I'm just not inclined to pretend to know.

 

[Mike in Berks]

... it's the same style as the panther a thin - fragile - machine pressed image

It might be a smallish decorative belt deal I guess... but I dunno. I reserve further somment on number two and will conceed it may be part of a buckle, or part of a sash buckle. With no other point of connection on the back or I'm just not inclined to pretend to know.

thanks for getting back to me MJ everyone has heard it before......i wish these relics could talk
well, as of now the one i'll call a sash buckle i'm still not convinced with the panther though
hey, i really appreciate your helping me.......and your ideas same goes for Old_Okie and Gypsy
Heart everyday i see things ID'd on here by very knowledgable people on this forum