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Lead bullet with one groove and cartridge with no headstamp found, old?

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Found a lead bullet and a cartridge without headstamp, both found a couple inches deep.
I have found an 1880s shotgun shell in the same area, but I have no idea if these are old...

I believe the cartridge is a rimmed .303 cartridge.
 

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Since nobody else has spoken up to help ID your finds, I'll give it a try. I concur with your belief... a (very early) rimmed .303 cartridge... could be a British .303, an early Winchester .303, or early Savage .303.

British .303
https://www.oldammo.com/september03.htm

Savage .303
https://www.oldammo.com/july08.htm

Winchester .303
https://www.oldammo.com/december18.htm

In particular, I note that it has an "extraction flange" but lacks an extraction-groove above the flange. This excludes it from being a .30-06 Springfield cartridge.
https://www.oldammo.com/february05.htm

The bullet appears to be a late-1800s .44 revolver bullet. Definitely later than civil war era because the patina shows it is made of a hardened-lead alloy rather than pure-lead.
 
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Since nobody else has spoken up to help ID your finds, I'll give it a try. I concur with your belief... a (very early) rimmed .303 cartridge... could be a British .303, an early Winchester .303, or early Savage .303.

Thanks for the information. Everything I learned about old cartridges, and where I found them, is consistent with them being old, but I couldn't say definitively.
I appreciate the help.
 
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