Lead disc with 2 holes

[BomberJohn]

Found this in a corn field yesterday. Have no idea what it is. It is just under 1" in diameter, 0.18" thick, 2 - 0.165" countersunk (both sides) holes through it. Pretty sure it is lead. Has 2 dates "DEC ? 82" over "DEC 12 32".

Any thoughts

HH
John

 

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[Montana Jim]

Too small to be a whizzer or spinner?

 

[trikikiwi]

ET, phone home

 

[TreasureHunters]

Its an Alien!

 

[jrlowe]

Test to see if magnetic.

 

[tabdog]

I may be wrong because I have never seen one with holes
in it, but,

It looks like a type of bale seal.

Here is a site that tells some about bale seals.

http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/baleseals.htm

Most are found in Europe, but they were used in the US
until the mid 1800s.

Here is a bale seal I found,

Happy Huntin,

Tabdog

 

[tabdog]

Oh,

That date is probably

"DEC 12.32"

That would mean December 12, 1832

Or it could mean December 12, 1732

It is history what ever it is.

Happy Huntin,

Tabdog

 

[johnnyi]

tabdog, I have a question about your seal. It looks like a hinged two disk folded seal, yet it seems to have the remains of two steel wires though it. Is that correct?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

John, does it say PATENTED above the dates?

 

[johnnyi]

Good eye Cy. I see what seems to be an A also.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Oh,

That date is probably

"DEC 12.32"

That would mean December 12, 1832

Or it could mean December 12, 1732

or Dec 12, 1882.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Good eye Cy. I see what seems to be an A also.

Yes I see PAT'D

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Could it be a dress weight? Dec 12, 1882 http://www.google.com/patents?id=Lr...gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Dec 5, 1882 patent http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=szhxAAAAEBAJ&dq=dress+weight+dec+5+lead

 

[johnnyi]

Doesn't seem to be the right design, but neither does that first date look like Dec to me. The second letter can't be an E but might possibly be a C ? (Oct?) (They wouldn't have abreviated the first date to "DC" would they?)

 

[BomberJohn]

The surface is rough but I could also conclude that it might be an A. PAT'D could fit there, but I do not see it.

It is not magnetic. 99% sure it is lead.

Like the dress weight idea. The patents I've seen here are different than mine. I imagine mine was sewn to the hem throught the 2 holes. Very cool.

Thanks Cy and Johnnyi


HH
John

 

[BomberJohn]

Johnny, When I dug it the DEC was quit clear on the first date. I do see what you mean. I think the E has been damaged. This item was in a plowed field.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The surface is rough but I could also conclude that it might be an A. PAT'D could fit there, but I do not see it.

It is not magnetic. 99% sure it is lead.

Like the dress weight idea. The patents I've seen here are different than mine. I imagine mine was sewn to the hem throught the 2 holes. Very cool.

Thanks Cy and Johnnyi


HH
John

I dont know. Are there any side slots? Your object is different than pictured but dont forget the patent is for the idea and it doesnt necessarily have to match. I think its unusual to have 2 patents in the same month. The hem weights I have seen looked like this.

 

[johnnyi]

Cy, I don't know either, but your hem or dress weight idea carries more "weight" than the rest.

 

[BomberJohn]

I have one like that too. This one is much heavier. Just weighed it:

15.2g
.535oz
.490ozt
9.8dwt

The other kind are like a tenth the weight. Maybe it was for a coat.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

They made different sizes.