Looking to ID some old stuff...

[Paleopilot]

Maybe one of you "ole guys", ( I'm only 64 ), could tell me what some of these things are? I recognize the cast iron "S" as off a weather vane and the bottle stoppers. I think the little wire thing with the weight is from a cow bell. Not sure about the one with the cone shaped brass thing on the end. The closeups are what I'm wondering about, the cow magnet was added to hold 'em up on the scanner.

 

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[donkarlos]

What kind of a site were these found in? Were they all buried?

 

[Paleopilot]

What kind of a site were these found in? Were they all buried?

Some were metal detector finds some were not. They were found in an area that once had a large Packing House and livestock facility. Some of the items were laying in a ruble pile. The large cross is almost pure silver, must have belonged to a Rabbi. They were a constant presence in packing facilities that slaughtered Kosher Meat. A large centurion barn stood nearby, some items were dug there also.

 

[donkarlos]

Interesting mix. The top right loop with stem on it looks like part of an antique syringe/injecting device.

 

[Breezie]

Looks like you have 2 canteen stoppers and a bell clanger. Neat mix of finds, Breezie

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

The object at the lower left corner of the photo is a Schrader's Patent stopper for hot water bags. Look closely at the supersized version of the posted photo and you'll see the start of the patent-date marking on the top of the stopper's edge. (To view the supersized version, click on the image in the post, then when the lareger version appears, click on it.)

It was patented on March 27, 1906 by G.H.F. Schrader as a "Stopper for hot water bags." Here's a copy of the inventor's diagram from the US Patent (#816,503).

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Paleopilot wrote:
> The large cross is almost pure silver, must have belonged to a Rabi.

I hope you won't mind hearing a Factual correction. Rabbi is the honorific title given to a religion-teacher in the Jewish religion. Therefore, a rabbi would not be using a Christian cross in doing Kosher inspections/blessings.

Sidenote:
Jesus was addressed as "Rabbi" by various Jews during his ministry as told in the Gospels in the Christian Bible.

 

[Paleopilot]

Paleopilot wrote:
> The large cross is almost pure silver, must have belonged to a Rabbi.

I hope you won't mind hearing a Factual correction. Rabbi is the honorific title given to a religion-teacher in the Jewish religion. Therefore, a rabbi would not be using a Christian cross in doing Kosher inspections/blessings.

Sidenote:
Jesus was addressed as "Rabbi" by various Jews during his ministry as told in the Gospels in the Christian Bible.

> The large cross is almost pure silver, must have belonged to a Rabbi.

Rest of the markings include, Pat. Mar. 27.1906 & Oct. 27. 1908 - S.G.N. INC. NY. As far as the "Rabbi" thing, That's what everyone called the guy with the funny hat and beard that blessed the hanging carcasses in the tempering coolers of all the Kosher-Kill plants in this area, (then and now). I know very little of the Jewish Faith, and certainly not wanting to offend anyone. But, I do know for a fact, they were called Rabbi. The silver cross may have come from who knows where? Thank you for your expert opinion.

 

[Paleopilot]

Paleopilot wrote:
> The large cross is almost pure silver, must have belonged to a Rabi.

I hope you won't mind hearing a Factual correction. Rabbi is the honorific title given to a religion-teacher in the Jewish religion. Therefore, a rabbi would not be using a Christian cross in doing Kosher inspections/blessings.

Sidenote:
Jesus was addressed as "Rabbi" by various Jews during his ministry as told in the Gospels in the Christian Bible.

Ask an average person to describe kosher food and they might say it is food "blessed by a rabbi." The word "kosher," however, is Hebrew for "fit" or "appropriate" and describes the food that is suitable for a Jew to eat. With its roots in the Hebrew Bible, the system of defining which foods are kosher was developed by the rabbis of late antiquity. Its application to changing realities has been the work of subsequent generations.
If my spelling error in the listing caused any problems, I'm truly sorry, and they have been corrected.

 

[Paleopilot]

Paleopilot wrote:
> The large cross is almost pure silver, must have belonged to a Rabi.

I hope you won't mind hearing a Factual correction. Rabbi is the honorific title given to a religion-teacher in the Jewish religion. Therefore, a rabbi would not be using a Christian cross in doing Kosher inspections/blessings.

Sidenote:
Jesus was addressed as "Rabbi" by various Jews during his ministry as told in the Gospels in the Christian Bible.

Did a search and now I see your point. Ask the Reform Rabbi - Jewish Son Wears Cross from Christian Wife - Parents Hurt
The silver cross probably came from somewhere other. Thank you for enlightening me.

 

[DCMatt]

The B&B lever looks like part of the height adjusting mechanism from the windows in my parents house (built 1958). They stuck out of the top of the stiles of the lower sash near the casing. You had to push these with your thumbs to raise and lower the windows. They were spring loaded to give tension to set the window height where ever you wanted. I looked for a picture of them but had no luck as I don't know what to call them.

The 'other' bottle stopper is a cork with a finger pull corkscrew still in it. Cool!

DCMatt

 

[nhbenz]

I'm glad Matt pointed out that it was b&b, I was looking for b&d!
It appears to be off of an old pair of ice skates; ANTIQUE B&B ICE SKATES size 8 1/2 nice condition (left side of front skate)
Close-up of mark;
vintage "b&b" ice skates - Google Search

 

[DCMatt]

I'm glad Matt pointed out that it was b&b, I was looking for b&d!
It appears to be off of an old pair of ice skates; ANTIQUE B&B ICE SKATES size 8 1/2 nice condition (left side of front skate)
Close-up of mark;
vintage "b&b" ice skates - Google Search

Wow. Impressive ID. Who knew the windows in my parents house were held open by ice skate adjusters...

Nice job Ben!

DCMatt

 

[DCMatt]

I think the item at the top left with ring and heavily worn stem is a choke pull ring from an old car.

When you start an old engine with a hand crank there is a ring or loop under the radiator you pull to manually choke the carb while cranking.

DCMatt

 

[Paleopilot]

I'm glad Matt pointed out that it was b&b, I was looking for b&d!
It appears to be off of an old pair of ice skates; ANTIQUE B&B ICE SKATES size 8 1/2 nice condition (left side of front skate)
Close-up of mark;
vintage "b&b" ice skates - Google Search

I think you nailed it! Thank you!

 

[Paleopilot]

I think the item at the top left with ring and heavily worn stem is a choke pull ring from an old car.

When you start an old engine with a hand crank there is a ring or loop under the radiator you pull to manually choke the carb while cranking.

DCMatt

That one's still a mystery...It's probably not a handle from a veterinarian's syringe because they were usually nickel plated brass, this thing is cast-steel and until it was cleaned in my tumbler, was very rusty. If It's a choke-pull, It's one that I'm not familiar with, however the wear marks on the stem are consistent with something that vibrated a LOT. Probably why it shed It's keeper-key and was lost. You may be right.

 

[DCMatt]

I think this item may be the remains of a weighted toilet tank ball and rod.

DCMatt

 

[nhbenz]

Funny you should mention that Matt, as I almost said that the pull ring looked like it might have been a cistern pull from an old toilet? But I couldn't find a match, and a choke pull sounded much cooler.

 

[Paleopilot]

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I think this item may be the remains of a weighted toilet tank ball and rod.

DCMatt

Except, they were always made from red brass

 

[nhbenz]

On the "S" shaped item, it appears that it was connected on the bottom, am I seeing that right? If so, I'm not sure it was from a weathervane, as I've only ever seen the directional letters attached at the side.