Mandatory Settlement Hearing on 9-4 and 95

[dredgeman]

Soon the fluffies will start pushing out many more critical habitat designations to overwhelm by volume

 

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[Oakview2]

Center for Biodiversity has a list of over 900 on their hit list, thats why the participants of this suit should be asking for damages for the five years of losses, to be put in trust and sue the ever loving pants off of the CBD and the Karuks for the fraud they have particpated in.

 

[NeoTokyo]

Its all about money and power, not the fish or frogs or birds or anything.

Yeah, sure, maybe a few well intentioned people started it, but in the end it is just out of control.

 

[diverrick]

And the center for biodiversity and the tsf and all the others will as long as we let them. They know how to game the system and its their full time job to do it,,,,and get paid at the same time!! The question is what are we going to do about iit? Kinda sad,,i talk to forest managers in calif. People in charge of minral withdrawals ect. And they say im one of the only miners the have ever talked to......and i live on the east coast...get on the horn and make a polite stink,,learn what you can do and do it!

I would guess your being lied to if they said your the only one they talked to. How about a contact E-mail or number?

 

[NeoTokyo]

Any updates or do you think that they are going to wait until the 15th?

 

[Oakview2]

I don't know if the Brandons case will be ruled on the 15th, but Judge Ochoa is reconvening the mandatory settlement hearings on the 16th and 17th, being a elected official he may be seeking cover from the appellate court by waiting for them to decide on federal preemption.

 

[2cmorau]

2 hour drive to hear brandon case, hope something gets done, Fed rights supersede State, but heck look at all the pot growin in our public lands, nuttin agsint pot, but don't like the idea i stumble on to one when prospecting

http://judgepedia.org/Gilbert_G._Ochoa

 

[dredgeman]

If Rinehart was delayed. Wonder what will happen with the settlement hearings

 

[Oakview2]

They are supposed to resume the 16th and 17th, looks like Ochoa may have to grow some.

 

[russau]

Center for Biodiversity has a list of over 900 on their hit list, thats why the participants of this suit should be asking for damages for the five years of losses, to be put in trust and sue the ever loving pants off of the CBD and the Karuks for the fraud they have particpated in.

I think that EVERYONE that has been affected by this group or any group needs to sue them out of existence by us! They violated our Constitutional RIGHTS! lets go after them with a vengince!

 

[Hoser John]

90 day bait and switch yet again as judges will NOT do their jobs till palms greased immensely 'm all-John

 

[NeoTokyo]

Another 3 month wait?
Whelp, no hope of dredging next year.

 

[Oakview2]

3 months will not effect next years season, unless they go agianst existing case law and find against us..

 

[dredgeman]

Just allowing enough time for Rinehart to be ruled on.

If Rinehart is returned to the lower court, still no dredging next year
If ruled on by the appeals judges ? all bets taken on what happens next.
I will not know because we will be actively mining our claims or quitting this nonsense

 

[Oakview2]

That elected judge ain't gonna be none to anxious to stick his neck in the noose.

 

[2cmorau]

when the guberment is wrong , it's still right, You can show the law in print and it will act in a manner most disturbing, I recently witness this myself with the nightmare of moving to my new place, (HCD) what’s more disturbing is all that have seen (realitors, lawyers, some neighbors, and worst is an employee of HCD) what I provided in support of my rights and have read, all of em, all the folks agree, I should win favor, not so in a court room, it really is pretty scary what government knows about you and can twist your testimony(phone calls and complaint forms) around to make you like Mansion. I am not a criminal, I am law abiding tax payer
Most know dredging is good for the environment but only the ones that have operated a dredge have a full understanding of this (I don’t know any judge that dredge’s do you?) Perceived reality n actual reality
Wish the miners would grow a pair like Code Pink, TSF, CBD< (treasonous) those like Maxine Water, Lois Lerner (prejudice) the support of isis or the agenda and are out there protesting in congress rooms holding up signs,
I had enough of this nonsense; it’s out of control we are at fault we allowed this

 

[Hefty1]

Any noise from the past week?

 

[Oakview2]

As Steve mentioned, we spent Monday in the Appellate Court in Sacramento listening to oral arguments in Brandon Rinehart's case. We drove back to the Bay Area where we both live, and jumped on a plane headed to the Ontario Airport eventually making our way to San Bernardino for the Mandatory Settlement Conference on Tuesday morning.

We arrived at the the courthouse about 8:30 AM and met with our attorney, Mr. James Buchal, for a quick briefing. Then the attorneys had their meetings with the judge, and then we all went to the conference room. The morning session seemed like it was moving slow with not much progress in discussing the regulations. After lunch we all met again for the afternoon session, and from my perspective, we seemed to be at stalemate when the judge adjourned the session for the day.

Steve and I returned to our motel room mentally drained, and feeling very uncertain as to what would happen on Wednesday. After a quick dinner, we spent the night preparing for the next day. We were on computers, iPads, and cell phones, doing research, and getting photographs together that we might need the next day.

About 2:00 AM, with only the illumination from the screens of computers and iPads lighting the room, I could see that Steve was still awake. We exchanged a few words, and we knew that several issues were weighing heavy on our minds. I'm not sure if we sleep much that night, but we were up early to meet with our attorney before going to the courthouse.

The morning started out as usual with the judge meeting with the attorneys, and then we all headed for the conference room. Judge Ochoa gave an opening statement, and the discussions of several points began. Within about fifteen minutes, Steve and I looked at each other, and without saying a word, we knew we were each wondering if we were in the right conference room talking to the same people as the previous day. Discussions were moving quickly and in a very positive direction. Maybe it was Judge Ochoa's opening statement, but both Steve and I had a very positive feeling. The conference was adjourned unfortunately at 1:00 PM, as we had made more progress in a couple of hours than we had in the last couple of days. The judge instructed us to return on September 30th and October 1st to continue the settlement conference.

Steve and I made the drive to the Ontario airport, and the flight home to the Bay Area still talking about how well the Wednesday conference session had gone and the progress that was made.

Steve and I wish we could give you more detailed information, but we are bound by rules of the conference. We can tell you that we feel real progress was made Wednesday, and we can only hope this progress continues at future conference meetings.

Thanks again to all of you for your kind comments, and continued support!


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[Hefty1]

Thanks Oakveiw2...

Thanks Rich...for that update. I must have met you at Brandons case. Just can not remember which one you are. That was a fast morning of events for me.
Anyways glad to have met you. and the others.

 

[Oakview2]

No problem Hefty, I wish I could have been there, I cleared work for Tuiesday, thinking it was the 15th. I reprinted this from Dave Mack's board.