My Experiments

[aarthrj3811]

This is the first Question I ask on this web site around four years ago. How do I eliminate Micro-Gold signals ? For me this is a big problem. With the advise from others I have been able to eliminate about 50 % of these signals. Do the Mental Dowsers have this problem ? I can process the Micro-Gold but I would rather be digging bigger pieces...Art

 

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[aarthrj3811]

I was doing a job and was using 308L Stainless Steel Rod. I made a set of L-rods the first being 32 inches long. To my surprise the rods locked when I stepped on a coin. I trimmed them 1 inch at a time and checked them. They would only lock every time that I had trimmed off 4 inches. This reminds me of adjusting the SWR's of a CB antenna. Could I have been matching the wave length of the rods to the coin or matching the rods wave length to my body Art

 

[aarthrj3811]

Let's talk about caves or tunnel Dowsing. When I ask for advise I received a lot of help. It seems the rod reaction is different for each person and it is a mental exercise. I went to an old mine that I assumed came out in a canyon about 4 miles down the mountain. I went to the exit and measured how wide the tunnel was. I went up the mountain about a 100 yards and checked my rods. I found that my rods would close and stay closed as long as I was over the tunnel. I followed it up hill taking a GPS reading every 1/10 of a mile. I then plotted the tunnel on a map and extended the lines until it crossed one of the many roads in the area. I repeated this at each road crossing until I got to the mine entrance. I also located two air vents on the way up. Since then I have checked a few more mine tunnels and found that it works....Art

 

[aarthrj3811]

Some of you will remember that I did some experiments using 44 lbs. of gold. I was able to eleminate the signal from the gold. It didn't work in the field the first time I tried it. A hot rock had a signal that read as 44 lbs. of gold. I will still us this method while I do more research....Art

 

[aarthrj3811]

Hey russau....Thanks for the information. It has been a few years since I used different size rods to null signals. Can't remember if I tried larger dia. or not. I will give it a try. Every since I found that I could disrupt the rods with a couple of non electronic gadgets I have been working on that. I thought I had found the answer but I was in error. Things were a little confussing around our site as I was trying to test equipment and give instructions to some kids ( 39 year olds are still kids ) I had two signals at the same depth 8 inches apart. I assumed it was a gold bar. At least it was only 18 inches deep.

One of the kids has given me some ideas for an electronic devise so I am working on that...Art

 

[jeff of pa]

Please Remember, NO Discussion of Electronic Devices of ANY KIND in the Dowsing Forums.

THANK YOU !
Jeff

 

[aarthrj3811]

Hey Jeff....I learned a lot in a few days.....I owe the people that made the arrangments for me big time.....Art

 

[russau]

sorry! i didnt know i couldnt refer to electronic stuff, but i just wanted to mention to art about the rod length and thickness.

 

[jeff of pa]

sorry! i didnt know i couldnt refer to electronic stuff, but i just wanted to mention to art about the rod length and thickness.

saw your a Newbie

and Figured maby you Didn't know.

THANKS for your understanding russau.

Jeff

 

[peg legged]

Sorry to say that I have had several EXPERTS in Dowsing go over a few ariel photos that I have and 7 out of 10 picked A DIFFERENT LOCATION. One person I actually took to a HOT spot. He was using what he called a Spainish Needle. He failed pretty bad and when he talked to the maker the maker asked him was there anyone around that has ESP. When he said yes he sluffed off andf said this was the reason why the needle did not work. He never came back.
Over the years I have developed a little talent myself in this fireld. But instead of using a rod I I use a sample of the same type material that I am looking for. Gold for gold and silver for silver.
I do not use any gold that has an alloy. I hammer the gold into a pointer and punch a hole in the top of my gold plum bob. I then put a piece of thread through the hole. I use fresh thread. I wash my hands in cold water and start. When I feel a bump this tells me that I am within the FIELD. If you watch closely you will see the PLUM BOB start going in a circle. I have not done this for a long long time but just might start again.
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[aarthrj3811]

Hey peg legged....I don't claim to be an expert at anything. I try to pass along information of how things work for me. I am new to map dowsing and find it to be interesting. I practice by locating schools and parks in cities that I know nothing about. Sometimes I am right on and other times I am blocks away.

When it comes to Spanish Needles it is my understanding that it takes two people to operate them. I have met people who had no idea or chance of finding anything with dowsing rods who claimed to be experts. I worked with a gentleman a few weeks ago that his rods would swing backward and when they hit his chest he was on the signal line or the target. He wanted to know if he should change his methods. I could clearly see that he was finding the targets and knew what the rods were telling him. My answer to him was why mess with something that is working.....Art

 

[aarthrj3811]

I was looking for a post of mine and found that it was now gone...I think it is important so I will put here..
This is my version of a Blind test. I use halves of 6 Plastic Easter eggs and a coin. I give my wife the coin and she goes out the back door and I stay inside while she places the coin under one of the egg halves. She then goes around the house and knocks on the front door. I go out, not having any contact with her. I start Locating thinking of anything else except for the Rods. Sometimes it is what I'm going to do tomorrow or a movie I saw the night before. I locate the coin, go in the house and give it to the wife and start over again. I make 10 to 15 passes and then take a break. My results are all ways the same. I find the coin every time.

When I do the test and I think about finding the coin my results are different. The best was 60% finds but the usual is between 30% and 50% finds. I have done this test more than 20 times.

Why do I do these test? To see if I am still doing it right. I refuse to let the Ideomotor Effects control my rods UNLESS I want it to. When I test in my backyard I know that some mystery signal from a SUV will not block my signals. ..Art

 

[Ted Groves]

Why do I do these test? To see if I am still doing it right. I refuse to let the Ideomotor Effects control my rods UNLESS I want it to. When I test in my backyard I know that some mystery signal from a SUV will not block my signals. ..Art

You know Art, I constantly see you cutting and pasting stuff on the various forums about ideomotor effects, but the statement above leads me to believe that you aren't even reading or are aware of what you are posting.

You see, by the very nature of the ideomotor effect, the conscious mind is NOT aware of it occurring. Therefore, it is not possible for you to refuse to let it influence your rods. Your rods simply would not react AT ALL, in any of your tests, if the ideomotor response had not occurred first.

Sorry... but that's just the way it works. Try reading some of the stuff you have posted, and maybe it will become clear to you. Maybe.....

 

[An Ri Rua]

Why do I do these test? To see if I am still doing it right. I refuse to let the Ideomotor Effects control my rods UNLESS I want it to. When I test in my backyard I know that some mystery signal from a SUV will not block my signals. ..Art

You know Art, I constantly see you cutting and pasting stuff on the various forums about ideomotor effects, but the statement above leads me to believe that you aren't even reading or are aware of what you are posting.

You see, by the very nature of the ideomotor effect, the conscious mind is NOT aware of it occurring. Therefore, it is not possible for you to refuse to let it influence your rods. Your rods simply would not react AT ALL, in any of your tests, if the ideomotor response had not occurred first.

Sorry... but that's just the way it works. Try reading some of the stuff you have posted, and maybe it will become clear to you. Maybe.....

Totally untrue or else your use of English is poor. If so, I apologise.

The conscious mind is not directing the muscular action consciously, but the subject is almost always aware of the ideometer effect? All mental dowsers know of it. Don't be ridiculous. You can't see the wood for the trees, it seems. It's what the ideometer effect as a process, points the searcher to, that is at the heart of what Tneters wish to know. i.e. TREASURE. Ever hear of it? T-r-e-a-s-u-r-eNET. Get the idea?
I am quite sure that I have read Art many times before explain that he is a physical dowser. And he has expressly mentioned the use of a frame that precludes the effects of the ideometer effect and backs up his signal line approach.

You really should get up to speed on another poster's stance before you attack aimlessly. Anyone can see that, although Art resurrected this thread (a thread that was protected from the blatant harassment of lesser hobbyists), you have now poisoned it with unnecessary personal attack and infringement on the hobbies of others. I hope the moderators are watching you very closely because your purpose here on Tnet is singular and your presence is insulting to the extreme. But apparently, ignorant manners is not a valid reason for them to show you the door. Ah well.......

Keep adding to this thread Art. Excellent stuff buddy.

 

[aarthrj3811]

You know Art, I constantly see you cutting and pasting stuff on the various forums about ideomotor effects, but the statement above leads me to believe that you aren't even reading or are aware of what you are posting.

You see, by the very nature of the ideomotor effect, the conscious mind is NOT aware of it occurring. Therefore, it is not possible for you to refuse to let it influence your rods. Your rods simply would not react AT ALL, in any of your tests, if the ideomotor response had not occurred first.

They are called DIFINATIONS Ted…You know the little thing that tells us what words mean..It is not my problem that you get all the wrong information from the SKEPTICS DICTIONARY and the SKEPTICS BIBBLE…They keep telling you that you are the ENLIGHTED PEOPLE and you buy into every thing that they tell you…….Art

 

[Ted Groves]

You know Art, I constantly see you cutting and pasting stuff on the various forums about ideomotor effects, but the statement above leads me to believe that you aren't even reading or are aware of what you are posting.

You see, by the very nature of the ideomotor effect, the conscious mind is NOT aware of it occurring. Therefore, it is not possible for you to refuse to let it influence your rods. Your rods simply would not react AT ALL, in any of your tests, if the ideomotor response had not occurred first.

They are called DIFINATIONS Ted…You know the little thing that tells us what words mean..It is not my problem that you get all the wrong information from the SKEPTICS DICTIONARY and the SKEPTICS BIBBLE…They keep telling you that you are the ENLIGHTED PEOPLE and you buy into every thing that they tell you…….Art

Rave on... you are just digging a deeper hole for yourself. BTW, the hole you're digging is empty, just like all the rest of them.

 

[hung]

They are called DIFINATIONS Ted…You know the little thing that tells us what words mean..It is not my problem that you get all the wrong information from the SKEPTICS DICTIONARY and the SKEPTICS BIBBLE…They keep telling you that you are the ENLIGHTED PEOPLE and you buy into every thing that they tell you…….Art

See now, why I could not answer Aft in that thread? I think that what you state above perfectly summarizes it up.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Poor old Ted..He is about to blow his cool and get booted again from T-Net….Art