My first unfired old cartiage

[jimzz977]

I went out this monring after dropping the kids at school, it's been raining so decided to hit a old park in historic Old mesilla the ground is usually hard to dig but with the rain it was nice and soft. Well I found this old fired cartiage with head stamp rem-umc win .38-40 , I believe it's old any ideas?? How old.

 

[luvsdux]

1920s to 1940s/50s.
luvsdux

 

[jimzz977]

Thanks that there is is old stuff in that park

 

[RobRieman]

Do you have a pic of the unfired one?

 

[jimzz977]

Yea 1st photo is the one still has lead bullitt

 

[ivan salis]

the rifle that was made for was the lever action Winchester model 1873--- 38 - 40 ( old center fire cartridge black powder gun -- 38 cal bullet over 40 grains of black powder load )... later on they altered the load when smokeless powder came on the scene but kept the familiar 38 /40 markings on the box and cartridge head ---the model 1873 guns were made from 1873 to 1923 --a 50 year span --of course the guns were used after 1923 since folks in the depression era used whatever they had to hunt with (late 20's and early 30's)..

they could be thought of as the 30/30 of its time ...a popular deer and mid sized game rifle

 

[austin]

the rifle that was made for was the lever action Winchester model 1873--- 38 - 40 ( old center fire cartridge black powder gun -- 38 cal bullet over 40 grains of black powder load )... later on they altered the load when smokeless powder came on the scene but kept the familiar 38 /40 markings on the box and cartridge head ---the model 1873 guns were made from 1873 to 1923 --a 50 year span --of course the guns were used after 1923 since folks in the depression era used whatever they had to hunt with (late 20's and early 30's)..

they could be thought of as the 30/30 of its time ...a popular deer and mid sized game rifle

Colt Single Action Army 1873 on- used this cartridge too. Popular during 1st generation, 1873-1941. May still be available from the custom shop today...