thanks guys for all the comments, it really does feel good to do some thing for someone that would have thought it could never happen to them.... Karen came back to town yesterday so we could meet again and get some copies of the paper to send to her family and friends,I had 30 copies that I got for free she took 15.. we met at the pocono mountain airport and when I got there I said that we are only 5-10 minutes away from where she lost the ring,so off we went..we got there and to our supprise there is my mom,dad, brother and his wife, the resort property has been bought for open space and made into a park it has a great view of the water gap you can see for miles once I get all the pictures from everyone I will post them. I would really like to thank rob for being there and posting this as I was too busy,and sniper,(craig) goalrush,(rick) for being there to see how much this meant to karen...you guys are the best,I always enjoy the hunts and camaraderie, the display of stuff that we put out really blew everyone away it was impressive...now on to other adventures....mike