well i gotta say so far heres how it gos down! the mine tec is a pocket size .the blue miners moss is to thick for the short length when the expanded metal is held down by the flare it puts a bow in the moss and metal. so water flow isnt verry good. so for me the moss is over killon the mine tec.however the body and flare are nice and heavy built,just needs new guts,the minwtec is awsome. i like that it is rock solid with an open flare not a screw on type.makes it easier to hrow around in a bucke and it is a little workhorse. i like the glued down matting out of the flare the sands breakup nice before they hit the carpet .the carpeting is a nice thickness not to deep, and with the expanded metal it still isnt cumbersom,the water flow is verry good on the minelite ,itll be the standard sampler and be on every trip i mine .the mine tec needs improvement,the jcamysluice is a fun little unit, but it is made from verry thin metal so it might get bent up if usd to much,so after my testing ive got it down to minelite in first then jcamy in second,i would like to get another minelight with just ribbed matting to use as my cleen up from some black sands i get,