My smallest Point ever!!

[lairmo]

Walked my gravel bars again today and after 2 and a half hours ended up at the bar where I found the large broken blade a couple days ago. I was tired and sat down for about 10 minutes and watched the creek flow by. Occasionally I would scan the gravel but mainly watching the waterfowl downstream or rubbing the sweat out of my eyes. When I got up to head on I noticed a small triangle shape and immediately dismissed it as a chip or possible flake. I went ahead and bent over to pick it up and man am I glad I did!!! My smallest point ever!! Paper thin! I was so scared of losing it that this thing rode between my cheek and gum for the next hour and a half back to the vehicle...lol

I have better pics that I took with my magnifier app (Samsung) but I cant find them when phone is connected to PC. Also ave a live find on my gopro and if I ever figure this crap out I will put it on here too...

Thanks for looking!! I'm excited..lol!

 

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[lairmo]

Found the pics!

 

[Older The Better]

I like finding the little ones because they make people say ?out of the entire outdoors you found that. How?d you see that?
I?m guessing being sw mo that it?s a jug hill and is tied to Osage and ancestral Osage.

 

[lairmo]

I like finding the little ones because they make people say ?out of the entire outdoors you found that. How?d you see that?
I?m guessing being sw mo that it?s a jug hill and is tied to Osage and ancestral Osage.
Yes it's supposed to be an Osage camp area where I am hunting. But I did find my first complete Angostura a week ago on a gravel bar a half mile upstream from this point. I'm no expert on time periods. so not sure if Osage goes back that far or what?

 

[antmike915]

Nice

 

[H.P.]

I have a similar one but not as nice as that one, a very cool points indeed.

 

[lairmo]

I have a similar one but not as nice as that one, a very cool points indeed.

Thanks! I have been looking for big stuff because that's what I am used to. This one surprised me. I'm not sure how this thing could be attached to an arrow let alone how they made something this small. I mean I couldn't hold it to work on it...lol

 

[Older The Better]

After you get too far back people are grouped by tool kits not necessarily a people like the Osage. I’ve got a spot that produces lots of triangles and my best date attempt is around 900 with Cuesta phase hopewell and Pamona culture. Angostura is 10x that old. I might add overstreet says ancestral Osage but I’m under the impression they came from farther east stopped in mo for a time then out to Kansas, so not sure how a site here would be ancestral Osage vs say Wichita culture… maybe farther research will clear that up.

 

[lairmo]

After you get too far back people are grouped by tool kits not necessarily a people like the Osage. I’ve got a spot that produces lots of triangles and my best date attempt is around 900 with Cuesta phase hopewell and Pamona culture. Angostura is 10x that old. I might add overstreet says ancestral Osage but I’m under the impression they came from farther east stopped in mo for a time then out to Kansas, so not sure how a site here would be ancestral Osage vs say Wichita culture… maybe farther research will clear that up.

Wow. Thanks for the info. Very much appreciated!

 

[Crumb]

Good find brother killer little point, and just think 1 more big hard rain and that thing might have been covered up for another 1000 years. Glad u seen it and saved it from the elements and not lost to time. No go find us another one to look at lol

 

[lairmo]

Good find brother killer little point, and just think 1 more big hard rain and that thing might have been covered up for another 1000 years. Glad u seen it and saved it from the elements and not lost to time. No go find us another one to look at lol

Thanks! Showed my brother all my recent finds through text messages and we are going to hit again tomorrow since we're both off this week!

 

[ToddsPoint]

In IL that would be called a Madison. It looks like it is made from heated Burlington flint. Gary

 

[H.P.]

I have a similar one but not as nice as that one, a very cool points indeed.

most likely made for a young child’s arrow made by a child.

 

[Tpmetal]

most likely made for a young child’s arrow made by a child.

I have never heard that before....My impression was these were bird points. I also highly doubt a child had the skills to nap that yet. I have been wrong before though

 

[monsterrack]

Nice Madison they were used for all sizes of animals. They have been found even in buffalo kill sites. Nice find

 

[scruggs]

That is a perfect little point! Good eye you have!

 

[Relicgrubber]

Yes it is a perfect lil' guy! Congrats!

 

[lairmo]

Thanks for looking! My brother is on his way and we're headed back out in a few minutes so hopefully there will be more.

 

[H.P.]

I have never heard that before....My impression was these were bird points. I also highly doubt a child had the skills to nap that yet. I have been wrong before though

I believe you underestimate skills that an Indian child of say 9-12 years old could learn studying and learning every day since he was old enough to walk..Very different from today..Have to transport ourselves back in time, in their world..Just a thought..I’m pretty sure it is just edgework on a flake which is extremely simple and common on triangles, at least in west central Florida

 

[Tpmetal]

I believe you underestimate skills that an Indian child of say 9-12 years old could learn studying and learning every day since he was old enough to walk..Very different from today..Have to transport ourselves back in time, in their world..Just a thought..I’m pretty sure it is just edgework on a flake which is extremely simple and common on triangles, at least in west central Florida

I was thinking child like a smaller child, as that would be the only reason for associating size of point with person. If the size is indicative of that, I would imagine a 9-12 year old using pretty much full size points. I am no artifact expert though, just going on what is bouncing around in the old dome piece. Your comment did make me think outside the box a bit.