Need help with verbal clue to a lost gold mine (some in Spanish)

[djui5]

the reason I am continuing to entertain the idea of an aerial marker is because those hill tops are still very low points compared to the rest of the surrounding landscape.

This was my thought, that the "gold" marker is on low lying ground, and could be seen from the trail in.

 

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[Smee]

If you can see a symbol on Google Earth, don't think for a second that it was made by the Spanish. Since there were no airplanes or satellites in those days, they would not have made any monuments or markers that should be read from the air.

Very True, NO airplanes, No sattelites, not even a derrigible or glider. However, what they did have were rims to the canyons. These would be the equivilent of low flying aircraft today. Without a detailed photograph of the surrounding area, it would be hard to say what is or is not visible from an overlook. However, don't forget that there are the earthen monuments in south america(Peru) which can only be seen from the air. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazca_lines

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Sorry Djui5, I responded BEFORE I read your post --- same idea.

 

[djui5]

What is the question about the picture?

 

[Smee]

Eewwww! Eewwww! I know Mr. Kotter!

It's a very old Elvis with a wierd earring!

Just kidding!

 

[Jeffro]

Best advice would be to stay away from symbols you see in topography.

 

[Twisted Fork]

Go after it old school........Take Smoke, Ask Old Indian.

If this doesn't work, cut a fresh flimsy willow limb fork and hike to a high point above the area. Wear a gold ring and with the sun to your back at ten in the morning, feel for a pull in the area. Pinky finger size is the best on the willow limb. 18 in. arms.

 

[Twisted Fork]

It really depends on how one looks at the art of dowsing in the first place. A lot of folks have little insight over the topic and most others carry an inherent Biblical fear of some sort; either way it is still in the eyes of the beholder. Personally, my experiences with the art have shown me that a number of real factors are at play in the works. I know from results of my own, that it is a very real function and quite natural to myself and a few others I have met along the trail over the years. I have found gold veins, gold bars, lost mines, Spanish trail markers where one would never think to look and walked straight into apparitions at the end of the "pull". One can never be sure as to what the pull is going to lead to unless years of experience reveals itself in the mind ahead of the destination. Most of the gold found by the Spanish, was located through divination as there were and still are numerous old timers who are very gifted in the craft. These barren patches your looking at are possibly clearings formed by miners cutting wood for the smelter as I have found them to be quite common near mines and furnace sites here in Utah. Some stratigies are at play by the map maker as to where the trees are taken from and the shape of the clearing's outline based on Masonic symbolism. It was left and meant to look natural on the ground, but another map maker who walked and shot the quads coming into an area ahead of a new Don and his party could read them like a book. Every marker trail I have ever encountered, whether it is an actual trail or just map reference, comes in from the N.W. and first lands near the center of the mineral zone. From there, one should begin to find man made markers of a natural design on a more frequent basis. Of course this could mean a lot of hiking around to get oriented with the veins and their directions if they are even noticeable from the surface, but this is where the willow comes into the picture. Based on what I've seen in the past, anybody can feel the area metals with a willow, but only a few are sensitive enough to use a diviner's rod of some sort. I would not waste any money on rods, if a willow doesn't cop a feel for the area. If you wanted to experiment with rods anyway, there are plenty of books in the library on divination that can provide you with the instructions and guide to making and using your own special devices for pennies on the dollar. I prefer the willow over them all. If you have to cut them hours away from your search site, be sure and keep the main stock in a vase or pop bottle full of water until you are ready to hunt as a dry stick will lose it's sensitivities. I have realized results with other types of limbs that were readily available on location, bu don't ask me what kind they were because I don't have a clue. The best tool to have as a hunter is of course the "double box detector" (tf900 best for the buck), but chances are the willow is going to get you in close to where there was once true activity and the real deal. All in all, I still say and will always say that some things out there just have your name on it and you cannot help but to do otherwise in finding them.
Twisted

 

[hmmm]

here is a peice of silver from a old mine that was never found .

 

[Twisted Fork]

Looks like the kind to me.......Thanks for sharing.

 

[hmmm]

this old timer had a bag of this, his story is identical to other lost mine stories. the big diferance is, he had the ore to prove the mine exsisted. his father found a old mine shaft , hacked off these peices then grabed a gold brick and left the mine. the brick dissapered but he had the gold.

 

[Twisted Fork]

I use to own a chunk of rose quartz that I found along the old military trail and I know it came from the Dutchman. It was like a 3/4" thick piece of red glass as big as the palm of my hand. The last place I saw it, was in my room at home. Can't prove who took it. Oh well.

 

[ivan salis]

an over hangcan cause BLACK "shadows" & the the gold location is below it close by-- ie in the shadow of the overhang there is a rich gold spot-- is there a large overhang spot in the area? -- possibly the opening to the mine is under a overhang in its "shadow" on a cliff shelf maybe

there it is --between" the black" above --yellow and heavy -- not far away

a black spot -- a large rock outcropping or overhang that would cause a "dark shadow"--yellow and heavy -- (gold is both yellow and heavy) so not far from the "black spot" is where the the mine opening is at -- just a thought -- Ivan

 

[djui5]

twisted,
Do you remember where it was found?

 

[hmmm]

this sounds very much like the clues to the lost spanish mine story from vancover island, a tiny creek, look for a over hang seen from the creek , a small cave under the over hang.

 

[lrb90740]

Any idea. Found this white stone plug with an X etched on its surface.

 

[Twisted Fork]

Spanish cache sites are found in between two markers of similar form with a third off center and ahead of them; a stone covering the booty. Shadows lead to them on an exact path and sequence starting from a high place in the area. Start with basics as if you were a prospecter with a long gun, a blade and nothing else. The coarse will end when you reach a location where the strongest mix of reds and greys come together or colors closest in that direction and usually where one can locate spider veins of rusty quartz. The system is called "The Gunsite . The lost Gunsite mine(s) refers to any and all of the Spanish sites as this layout was used by all Masons of that period including the KGC caches which are even craftier being hidden right near society. In any case, the trail begins at a rock of which no man can move and ends with a stone to dig at. From a high place you can think like they did and see where the burros would choose to pass between.