Need Some Information Please

[DAllen]

The attached photo is from a collection I was willed. Bannerstone / Miss. River / Ohio. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

 

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[Bucket Lister]

What's the material, size, any other info if known?

 

[cudamark]

Yeah, we need a whole lot more info than what you have posted. What kind of collection is this part of?

 

[Digginitdaily]

The attached photo is from a collection I was willed. Bannerstone / Miss. River / Ohio. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

It almost looks like gorget. Batwing style. Do you know what area it was found?

 

[ToddsPoint]

Wild looking banner. And the Mississippi River don’t run near Ohio.

 

[Digginitdaily]

If it is a bannerstone that crescent moon style is from the southeast. I say if because I don't know if it has I hole in the center. It looks like slate.

 

[fishstick]

Def not a gorget and Miss River thru Ohio ?

 

[Digginitdaily]

Def not a gorget and Miss River thru Ohio ?

It'd be a kick ass gorget though! Id plug up the drill and pop a couple holes in that bad boy and call it Cherokee bling!

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

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Can you please provide more close up pictures, pictures of all sides and especially close up of the notches.

When only picture is blown up it has what appears to be a lot of straight line scratches, more pictures will reveal if they are on all sides. Straight scratches are not usually a good sign.

 

[Digginitdaily]

Thread moved to indian artifact forum.

Can you please provide more close up pictures, pictures of all sides and especially close up of the notches.

When only picture is blown up it has what appears to be a lot of straight line scratches, more pictures will reveal if they are on all sides. Straight scratches are not usially a good sign.

I didn't think about that. After I blew up the picture it looks more like limestone.

 

[DAllen]

It almost looks like gorget. Batwing style. Do you know what area it was found?

All I know is Mississippi river, ohio. And the tag said bannerstone.

 

[DAllen]

Quite honestly, a lot of the tags got mixed up

 

[Bucket Lister]

Quite honestly, a lot of the tags got mixed up

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[DAllen]

Hopefully these will help...

 

[Bucket Lister]

Hopefully these will help...

Definitely! 😁

It's quite a bit smaller than I had envisioned.
Curious artifacts, these bannerstones; I'm enjoying learning/reading about them.

Apparently, there's quite some diversity in shapes, despite similarities in form...

There also seems to be some controversy as to their function (most relate it to the atlatl). Looking at these pics, and considering the smaller size, I'm wondering if a bannerstone were not an accessory of the atlatl, but an accessory of the spear instead(?) Could they have been a type of fletching? Then why stone instead of wood, bone, or some other lighter material? To provide extra umph (weight) to the spear in order to penetrate thicker/tougher hides?

 

[fishstick]

It'd be a kick ass gorget though! Id plug up the drill and pop a couple holes in that bad boy and call it Cherokee bling!

Not me!!! If found by myself it would be HIGH on the TOP shelf!!!!!!!!🍾

 

[CreekSide]

It’s very nice for the shelf but just my opinion and it looks like a reproduction but a very nice reproduction. Sometimes collectors will buy things they don’t find to round off the collection. I’ve never found a BannerStone but would like to.

 

[dognose]

My gut feeling looking closer at it is that it is a reproduction.

This wing butterfly banner is a style I have not seen in the past.

You only show the one side and the hole angle. Please show the other side.

These lines indicate a sander, possibly a belt sander.

 

[Digginitdaily]

Definitely! 😁

It's quite a bit smaller than I had envisioned.
Curious artifacts, these bannerstones; I'm enjoying learning/reading about them.

Apparently, there's quite some diversity in shapes, despite similarities in form...
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There also seems to be some controversy as to their function (most relate it to the atlatl). Looking at these pics, and considering the smaller size, I'm wondering if a bannerstone were not an accessory of the atlatl, but an accessory of the spear instead(?) Could they have been a type of fletching? Then why stone instead of wood, bone, or some other lighter material? To provide extra umph (weight) to the spear in order to penetrate thicker/tougher hides?

I would think it is similar to how the grain weight works for bullets. The heavier it is the harder it hits. Maybe that makes sense.

 

[Digginitdaily]

Not me!!! If found by myself it would be HIGH on the TOP shelf!!!!!!!!🍾

I've found half of a winged style in GA. But I've found 2 different sized pick styles in Arkansas. They are grooved around the outer edge.