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Angry face Astralman...so sad...:)
 
The desire to win is shallow, insecure and bereft of any wisdom.
When we accept a challenge and strive for victory, be it sport, play or war.... at this point we have already lost.
What we have here, in this ingenious thread, is an open ended conversation where we can bounce all sorts of wonderous feelings and ideas around safely in the knowledge that there will never be a winner and therefore no losers either...
:boxing::love4:
 
The desire to win is shallow, insecure and bereft of any wisdom.
When we accept a challenge and strive for victory, be it sport, play or war.... at this point we have already lost.
What we have here, in this ingenious thread, is an open ended conversation where we can bounce all sorts of wonderous feelings and ideas around safely in the knowledge that there will never be a winner and therefore no losers either...
:boxing::love4:
Everyone and no one gets a trophy...not sure if it applies but in real life situations when someone cuts in line at the grocery store or ferry line people feel alittle differently....
 
The desire to win is shallow, insecure and bereft of any wisdom.
When we accept a challenge and strive for victory, be it sport, play or war.... at this point we have already lost.
What we have here, in this ingenious thread, is an open ended conversation where we can bounce all sorts of wonderous feelings and ideas around safely in the knowledge that there will never be a winner and therefore no losers either...
:boxing::love4:
Just enjoying my wonderful feelings and ideas, feeling safe in the knowledge of not being a winner or loser...let's see...um...I have an idea....and a feeling that I've won...I like this idea...I feel wonderful....
 
The desire to win is shallow, insecure and bereft of any wisdom.
When we accept a challenge and strive for victory, be it sport, play or war.... at this point we have already lost.
What we have here, in this ingenious thread, is an open ended conversation where we can bounce all sorts of wonderous feelings and ideas around safely in the knowledge that there will never be a winner and therefore no losers either...
:boxing::love4:
I'm winning and losing I feel great and not so great...so conflicted...
 
Winning and losing, two sides of the same cursed coin. You cannot have a win without a loss in just the same way that there is no light without darkness and no pleasure without pain, these are all experiences of duality, division............. sadly these desires are very prominent.
The accumulation of the knowledge commodity in no way represents wisdom.

Goody-goodies are the thieves of virtue - Lao Tse.
 
Ah, sounds like the good and evil need each other thought...I lean more towards the evil is the twisting of the good..and don't need to be co dependent..that evil is really a product of a fallen human nature...we weren't always fallen...C.S. Lewis talks about this in one his books much more eloquently than I do...regarding two equal entities...he says, my paraphrase, it's one of the stronger thoughts, philosophies, but has its flaws...ah, now I remember..
Mere Christianity is the book...it's a weighty book if you ever have a chance to read it...
I do agree having knowledge doesn't mean one has wisdom...
I think I might be in the wrong forum from reading my comment. :)

Winning and losing, two sides of the same cursed coin. You cannot have a win without a loss in just the same way that there is no light without darkness and no pleasure without pain, these are all experiences of duality, division............. sadly these desires are very prominent.
The accumulation of the knowledge commodity in no way represents wisdom.

Goody-goodies are the thieves of virtue - Lao Tse.
 
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Winning and losing, two sides of the same cursed coin. You cannot have a win without a loss
I disagree.
in just the same way that there is no light without darkness and no pleasure without pain, these are all experiences of duality, division............. sadly these desires are very prominent.
The accumulation of the knowledge commodity in no way represents wisdom.

Goody-goodies are the thieves of virtue - Lao Tse.
 
Agreement and disagreement are also versions of the same, polarity in thought.
The thoughts of good vs bad, dark vs light, right vs wrong , etc... are all stemming from the patriarchal versions of tradition, cultural and religious belief. The feeling, or concept, that we are here and there is a controlling force somewhere else, sometimes referred to as God or the creator and various others..... the all seeing and omnipotent presence that is constantly watching and judging whether or not we are abiding by the presently accepted concepts of good and evil..............
Once this paradigm is transcended and we come to realise that separation is only a mind trick (and trap) and that we are one with everyone else and all of existence, then winning and losing, right and wrong, good and bad or whatever dualistic concepts ,that we claim to represent (outwardly) , fade into irrelevance..
Herein lies the danger of knowledge without the insight of wisdom.
We all understand commonly accepted versions of morality, but most fail to see that all life experiences are based on contrast, on opposites and comparisons. 'Black' is only 'black' when in contrast to 'white,' we know what 'up' is because we know what 'down' is, we know 'good' because we also know 'bad', we know 'life' because we are all very aware of 'death'... it goes on and on and on.... So the opposites must exist for the understanding to exist, because without one we can't recognise the other... if you think you can then you haven't really understood and You may find my interpretations to be somehow dishonest or misleading..
So both sides must come into existence together , or arise mutually.
To take this to the next level, away from childish concepts of belief and societal alignment, we see that existence itself is in contrast to non-existence, that all of what we sense and our mind confirms as 'reality' is only in contrast to nothingness. All matter and form is a contrast to empty space, and one cannot exist without the other.
So enjoy the win ,if you must... but realise a win for one is a loss for everyone else. Unless.........................:laughing7:
 

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