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Agreement and disagreement are also versions of the same, polarity in thought.
The thoughts of good vs bad, dark vs light, right vs wrong , etc... are all stemming from the patriarchal versions of tradition, cultural and religious belief. The feeling, or concept, that we are here and there is a controlling force somewhere else, sometimes referred to as God or the creator and various others..... the all seeing and omnipotent presence that is constantly watching and judging whether or not we are abiding by the presently accepted concepts of good and evil..............
Once this paradigm is transcended and we come to realise that separation is only a mind trick (and trap) and that we are one with everyone else and all of existence, then winning and losing, right and wrong, good and bad or whatever dualistic concepts ,that we claim to represent (outwardly) , fade into irrelevance..
Herein lies the danger of knowledge without the insight of wisdom.
We all understand commonly accepted versions of morality, but most fail to see that all life experiences are based on contrast, on opposites and comparisons. 'Black' is only 'black' when in contrast to 'white,' we know what 'up' is because we know what 'down' is, we know 'good' because we also know 'bad', we know 'life' because we are all very aware of 'death'... it goes on and on and on.... So the opposites must exist for the understanding to exist, because without one we can't recognise the other... if you think you can then you haven't really understood and You may find my interpretations to be somehow dishonest or misleading..
So both sides must come into existence together , or arise mutually.
To take this to the next level, away from childish concepts of belief and societal alignment, we see that existence itself is in contrast to non-existence, that all of what we sense and our mind confirms as 'reality' is only in contrast to nothingness. All matter and form is a contrast to empty space, and one cannot exist without the other.
So enjoy the win ,if you must... but realise a win for one is a loss for everyone else. Unless.........................:laughing7:
That's alot to chew on Astralman....I may or may not address your comment...are you familiar with Lewis's Mere Christianity? Lewis really was an underrated philosopher of the twentieth century, died the same day as Kennedy and Aldus Huxley (Brave New World) which I haven't read, not pompous at all...and as I recall dealt with this very idea quite profoundly....I'm going to try and go back and reread it...my brain could use alittle exercise....let's see if I actually follow through....lazy minded man I am...but if I do...all credit to you. :)
 
haven't heard of the philosopher that you mention, but that is probably because I haven't read much on the subject, I try to keep myself to my own thoughts (if indeed that can be), i prefer not to be influenced nor do I try to influence, merely discuss, philosophy cannot be learned, yes you can learn about this or that version, but keeping it personal is how i like to do it...
Hope you read Huxley, and let us know what he is all about.............
we need to keep expanding and not stagnate and regurgitate...
 
I have read Brave New World and some of C.S. Lewis... many years ago.
But the real point is,,, look who is LAST right now!
 
I have read Brave New World and some of C.S. Lewis... many years ago.
But the real point is,,, look who is LAST right now!
Screwtape letters was another that kept my interest...The first couple Narnia books I also enjoyed...but you make a good point, look who is last...
 
Ya'll be Living In The Past!


The guy with the mirambas? Miracas? Don't think I could continually move my arms that way...and a helmet for the drummer..
That's a first....I will share that with my coworker who is a drummer...
 
Arfie still sneaking around with the odd strategic last... :laughing9:
Coinjar revitalised... :whip2:

The view of, and from,, my town back home was the inspiration for CS Lewis' Narnia ... He sat, where i used to sit as a child and marvelled at the magical beauty. He wasn't from there but visited for holidays as a child and later in life.
 
Arfie still sneaking around with the odd strategic last... :laughing9:
Coinjar revitalised... :whip2:

The view of, and from,, my town back home was the inspiration for CS Lewis' Narnia ... He sat, where i used to sit as a child and marvelled at the magical beauty. He wasn't from there but visited for holidays as a child and later in life.
Alfie, Rfie, Arfie, is like the 6 man (basketball)coming off the bench to give the team a lift and a rest for the starters...not the bench warmer I thought Arfman was...very cool that you enjoyed that kind of view as a child...I guess he was friends with Tolkien, learned old Norse, and old Anglo Saxon to better understand Tolkien's mythologies...you could throw a rock just about anywhere in England and hit a spot that had some kind of literary significance...I feel good, I feel great, I feel wonderful....repeat...etc....scene from What About Bob...Bill Murray...
 
Change England to Ireland and we got an understanding....☘️
Yes, agreed...That was Lewis's birthplace correct? Ah, Belfast, Ireland...I stand corrected. Are you a fan of Father Ted at all? Awhile back they were having a contest to see which island could claim the rights to being Craggy island...Black Books was another good series...
 
Yes ... have always been a Father Ted fan... Met Dougal, (Ardal O'Hanlon) , they generally accept Inis Mór (inishmore) to be the island, but in reality it isn't,, they hold a 'Ted fest' there regularly....it is just because of the island setting off our west coast,, Aran islands are a great place anyway.. Didn't really like Black Books, although I do like Dyaln Moran in the stand up comedy field...
I consider Belfast as my hometown although I am from 30 miles out of town,, basically lived and partied in Belfast during the very troubled years...
 
Interesting fact about Belfast, Ireland... It was named after some of my wife's ancient ancestors (according to her family story). I also have a lot of ancestors from Ireland and Scotland!
 
Interesting fact about Belfast, Ireland... It was named after some of my wife's ancient ancestors (according to her family story). I also have a lot of ancestors from Ireland and Scotland!
Cool! Very cool!
 

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