New Token or Old Token?

[doublet2a]

This thing was deep, and crusty, Never thought I would get I clean enough to read, Even electricity didn't touch it
I had to resort to me secret weapon

24MM Brass

Just doesn't have that newer token look
Same on both sides

HH TIM

 

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[aa battery]

Looks old?

 

[Evolution]

Being that you are in California and that token looks old it might date back to the gold rush years. Post it on the token forum and see if anyone can ID it there also. Great find!

 

[Mackaydon]

I wonder if this is related:

From New Mexico Tech: OCORRO, New Mexico
"The annual 49’ers homecoming celebration at New Mexico Tech will be bigger and better this year...."

"All students and alumni receive fake money for fake gambling as they enter the “casino” beginning at 7 p.m. Those with fake money at the end of the night can bid on real merchandise at the auction."

Don....
Source: http://www.stpns.net/view_article.html?articleId=21841077636472076

 

[doublet2a]

Hey Don,, Thanks for the reply
I came across that site to when I searched
But this has to older that that
I 'm liking the "GOLD RUSH DAYS" theory

HH TIM

 

[BuckleBoy]

I think the first clue is the use of the phrase "49'ers." I don't know when this term came into use, but it had to be during the 20th century rather than the 19th. Second clue is the $5.00 value of the token. Pretty high value for a token! Many tokens were good for 25 cents or a dime, or at most a buck or two. $5 seems leans me in the direction of a more modern origin for your token. Third clue is the words "fake money." I have seen the words "play money" on children's' coins from the 40's, but never the words "fake money" on a token. Usually the tokens had a specific address on them at which you could redeem the token's face value (most frequently in goods rather than cash). Also, older tokens usually say what they are good for--except in the case of company store tokens which were used instead of cash, and would not have said "fake money." I don't wanna burst the bubble here...but I'm leaning toward Don's explanation. Could be that the condition might not equate to age. It might also belie the use of less durable materials in the token's composition...

Regards,

Buckleboy

 

[doublet2a]

Thanks for all the input,
I agree $5.00 is lot of money back then
I do collect tokens, and this one is curious
In hand looking at it, It's old
Know what I mean
If it is a new one, It's sure fooled me

HH TIM

P.S. Maybe it's from a High Class Place in 1849, ??
Heck it's "GOLD RUSH BOYS"
Any body what to play poker

 

[doublet2a]

Thanks Don

I did a search on the town of Jackson California
It was est. 1n 1840's
and it's in the mother lode country about 200 mi. from me
I have hunted in that area before
Interesting info


Tim

 

[aa battery]

Ok 2a you take me and i will let you do the air base aa

 

[doublet2a]

Sounds like a deal to me, Where do you want me to pick you up at??
You are paying for gas, right


Tim

 

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[trikikiwi]

I wonder if this is related:

From New Mexico Tech: OCORRO, New Mexico
"The annual 49'ers homecoming celebration at New Mexico Tech will be bigger and better this year...."

"All students and alumni receive fake money for fake gambling as they enter the “casino” beginning at 7 p.m. Those with fake money at the end of the night can bid on real merchandise at the auction."

Don....
Source: http://www.stpns.net/view_article.html?articleId=21841077636472076

and another quote from there,

"Members of the Vigilante Band, which will be playing at the Capitol Bar for the 32nd consecutive 49’ers, are the grand marshals of the parade."

So it could have lain there for quite a while, assuming the 49'ers were/are inveterate gamblers!

I reckon Don's right.

Cheers, Mike

 

[Mackaydon]

Buckleboy:
I was trying to find the event where this 'fake money' would have been used, and I came up with one possibility. But you came up with sound reasoning as to its vintage, especially with the comment: "Second clue is the $5.00 value of the token. Pretty high value for a token! Many tokens were good for 25 cents or a dime, or at most a buck or two."
So whether or not this is an artifact from the event I noted, I buy into the idea of it being 'modern' after reading your post.
Don.....

 

[BuckleBoy]

Buckleboy:
I was trying to find the event where this 'fake money' would have been used, and I came up with one possibility. But you came up with sound reasoning as to its vintage, especially with the comment: "Second clue is the $5.00 value of the token. Pretty high value for a token! Many tokens were good for 25 cents or a dime, or at most a buck or two."
So whether or not this is an artifact from the event I noted, I buy into the idea of it being 'modern' after reading your post.
Don.....

I just try to examine the evidence and support my ideas about the whatzit finds. I have been trying to find more info on it as well, but with no luck so far... I'm convinced that the "old" appearance of the token may be due to the use of cheaper metals in the alloy like zinc or tin. Certainly ain't brass...

Regards,

Buckleboy