Newbie here and I have questions....

[(())RandY(())]

Heres a good site for you!!

http://66.51.97.78/coinist/researchpage1.html

 

[metal chick]

Thanks, Pepper - I will try to find it!

Thank you also for the link!

 

[BuckleBoy]

I'm going on Saturday with Digger Girl to metal detect an OLD house with a HUGE yard, orchard, fields, etc.  I know in advance that the property owner said that he wanted to keep whatever was found.  Now when he sees the types of things we're finding, he may let us keep part of what we find.  That's O.K. by me.  Consenting to these terms--and sticking to them--means building trust with owners.  And this owner is a good one to build trust with--he knows everyone in town.  Now, I'll get photos to keep and post, but if I don't get to keep the items, it's not a big deal.  The items really belong to the owner.  They're on his property.  I wouldn't cut up a dead tree on a person's property and take it home for firewood without consent--even though I worked to cut it down, that doesn't make it "mine."  And the tree was likely there long before the current owner bought the property.  I see this as a similar situation.

By doing this--and agreeing to stringent terms like this, I've hunted some spots that countless others were turned away from.  And it's opened up many doors to new sites that the owners have known about.  Now when I go to see him on Saturday, I will take a small display case with me of some old brass relics--suspender clips, tokens, etc., and tell him that these were some of the things that "kind owners" have allowed me to keep in the past--and that they aren't worth anything, but they are still interesting because they tell a story of the past.  I would NEVER turn and walk away from someone who wanted to keep what I found.  I would Never EVER give a smart-a$$ed quip about the coins staying in the ground or telling them to buy their own detector if I found out that the owner wanted to keep them.  EVER!  It makes detectorists seem greedy--which is NOT the impression you want to create.  The owner just might do that--go out and buy a detector. And then the wonderful "rush" of making a good find is theirs--not mine! Most folks who have some sort of a hobby (other than detecting) spend money on that hobby without ever expecting any prospect of return.  It hasn't been that a detectorist could make a living at what they do for a long time--so I think it's time to put away that notion, as well as our Greed, and open ourselves up to other possibilities. 

But like I said in my earlier reply to this thread, I think that this approach comes with years of hunting experience.  When I was a newbie, I wanted to keep everything...  Now, after rolls of Mercury Dimes, I don't mind giving a few away. 


If property owners could know how many thousands and thousands of dollars worth of items and relics were Recovered and Kept while hunting on private property since the 60's, we'd never be able to hunt anywhere!  It's time to give back.


Just my honest opinion,


Buckleboy

 

[metal chick]

Words of wisdom and makes perfect sense, BB.

 

[CanUDigIt]

and well put, BB! I am with you. I enjoy the thrill of the hunt. If I wanted to get rich, there are plenty of easier and more profitable ways. In just six months, I have enough "relics" in my home. Each target is like a pull of the slot machine. You just never know until you let it breathe.

 

[WV Hillbilly]

If there are certain old sites you want to detect then you must present yourself as a likeable caring
person . If you are just looking for places to detect there's always friends & family & friends of friends
& friends of family . Everyone you know , knows other people & a lot of times it can be fairly simple to
get your foot in the door . Having owned my own buisness , I have found a lot of elderly people love
to have someone to talk to . Elderly people have friends too . I'll never forget one old gentleman who I
worked for several times . When I'd first get to his house he was all buisness . He'd just tell me what he
wanted done , maybe look in a time or two & go on about his buisness . As soon as I finished the job
he wanted to know what he owed me . When he came back with a check he also would have a cup of
coffee for me & then he wanted to talk . I spent & enjoyed many hours talking to him . I worked for lots
of people over the years & I can think of plenty that would have let me detect their property because I
always took time to talk to them . Unfortunately I hadn't started detecting yet , at that time .

 

[Cynangyl]

Our elderly are often unappreciated for the wealth of information that they have and so enjoy talking to someone they feel cares what they have to say. I could spend hours upon hours listening to them.....just love them to death! So special!

 

[Eu_citzen]

don't the people get mad if you dig up their lawn??

Practice digging a plug or any other way to dig and leave a clean hole.

Buckle:
You have a point. I'd say it really depends on how "interesting" the site is and if I'm REALLY sure there is goodies there then I'd share if the owner mentions it. But if it is "not" is interesting then I'd rather leave it.
Know where it is/could (be) worth to share. ( this is where Research comes in)

 

[BuckleBoy]

Buckle:
You have a point. I'd say it really depends on how "interesting" the site is and if I'm REALLY sure there is goodies there then I'd share if the owner mentions it. But if it is "not" is interesting then I'd rather leave it.
Know where it is/could (be) worth to share. ( this is where Research comes in)

Hey, I ONLY hunt Interesting Sites!    Seriously, this is a good point too.  Most of the time I--perhaps I should say "we"--never know how good the hunting will be on a site.  Sometimes if the research tells us it will be GREAT, it's been hunted, or the dirt has been moved or hauled away...  Sometimes those little, uninteresting cabin sites have incredible finds...  I want to set foot on EVERY site my Research has led me to, and any way I can get a "Yes"--even if there are strings attached--is worth a shot.  Otherwise I'll never know what's there.  If I get a "No" I can get the site out of my head and get on with life.  If I got a "Yes" (and they wanted to keep what I found), and I walked away...well...I'd always wonder what was there.      I say just get me on that site with the coil swinging and we'll see what's there.  

Best Wishes,


Buckleboy

 

[Eu_citzen]

Buckle:
You have a point. I'd say it really depends on how "interesting" the site is and if I'm REALLY sure there is goodies there then I'd share if the owner mentions it. But if it is "not" is interesting then I'd rather leave it.
Know where it is/could (be) worth to share. ( this is where Research comes in)

Hey, I ONLY hunt Interesting Sites! Seriously, this is a good point too. Most of the time I--perhaps I should say "we"--never know how good the hunting will be on a site. Sometimes if the research tells us it will be GREAT, it's been hunted, or the dirt has been moved or hauled away... Sometimes those little, uninteresting cabin sites have incredible finds... I want to set foot on EVERY site my Research has led me to, and any way I can get a "Yes"--even if there are strings attached--is worth a shot. Otherwise I'll never know what's there. If I get a "No" I can get the site out of my head and get on with life. If I got a "Yes" (and they wanted to keep what I found), and I walked away...well...I'd always wonder what was there. I say just get me on that site with the coil swinging and we'll see what's there.

Best Wishes,


Buckleboy

When I do my research I mostly get up more then only a map; I can get up maps, (old) owner info, if the land has been split, problems with authorities and a lot more good information.
With some info I can "Grade" a site after how interesting it can/will/would be.
I'll be completely honest with you, if I got "yes" and they wanted to keep it all then I'd forget about it completely. After some negotiations that is maybe we can make an agreement. (i.e. split 50/50)