Not in "OUR" parks

[jjp]

Not in "OUR" parks

Here is the response I got about metal detecting in parks . I should have figured this response. Typical of the area..
Probably get jail time for digging.

Joe,

Chapter 138 Section 3 Item L of the municipal code states that " No person
shall injure, damage or otherwise deface any buildings, structures, fences,
bridges, monuments, playground equipment or other property, or climb a tree or
break, cut down, trample upon, remove, or in any manner injure or damage any
ornament, rock, stone, tree, plant, fern, blooms, blossom, flower, or TURF".

Thank you for your cooperation.

Fran Pettit
Recreation Coordinator

 

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[bigrig40]

Re: Not in "OUR" parks

that bites! i have never had a problem yet.most grounds keepers have even offered me ideas where to hunt or just wanted to see what i found.

bigrig

 

[Monty]

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I imagine that is pretty typical of many city codes. I can see where it could be a problem if taken to extremes. Some people are ignorant enough to go digging up the greens and fairways of a golf course! If you follow the ethical code of the treasure hunter I don't think you would get into trouble. It's kinda like using the nation forests, leave it better than you find it, carry off any trash you find and be sure to carefully replace divots you may dig up. As in any hobby there are slobs so even go so far as try to repair their damage if you see it. So far I have never seen anyone with metal detector that would not do the right thing and I think that says a lot for the character of those who enjoy our hobby.

 

[sal1966]

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to be honest with ya, i think alot of that is geared towards the teenagers who like to spray grafetti,race their dirt bikes, drink and smoke pot, and damage playground equipment. you know, the things some of us did as kids(lol).

 

[jjp]

Re: Not in "OUR" parks

I agree I would leave ay park in better shape than when I found it. What should I do take my chances and hunt anyway? Anyone else hunt in parks where it?s technically on the books that you cannot?

 

[omnicognic]

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Around here, some of the parks have Large signs that read:"Use of metal detectors prohibited". very specific not open to interpretation!

 

[lonewolfe]

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If you follow the ethical code of the treasure hunter I don't think you would get into trouble.

I'm with you jimmileo,

a lot of our cities, and I believe even our state has the same general code as described in the above, but, a lot of guys detect the parks with out any problems.

Only where there is posted signs (No Metal detectors Allowed) do we not hunt for obvious reasons.

As long as you follow the "code of ethics" of being respectful, and covering your holes to look as though you never dug one, and remove all trash, etc. You shouldn't have any problems.

I agree with the other member that said, these codes/laws were/are written for people who vandalize, destroy, etc. I mean, it's pretty obvious that you don't dig up park flowers, shrubs, trees, destroy things in the park, and or leave gopher size holes all over the place!

 

[stoney56]

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Written by someone copying a national park policy I bet. Granted it was probably written as a deterant to vandals but if out in park w/detector and man with shiney matching bracelets walks up, you better have wrtten permission from the city, because some old biddy from some city beautification program just filed a complaint.

 

[JARMAN]

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Thats the response I knew I would get if I ask first with our city codes ^%$&(. SO I never asked and hunt all the time and have never been aproched even when Parks & rec,are working.If they do then i will just play dum and be on my way.But I wont hunt others property withot permmision.

 

[dudes2112]

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It's a bit of a catch 22, if you ask and they say no then you feel compelled to stay away. If you don't ask, you are always a little worried about some sort of run in. Sucks to be a nice guy afraid to do the right thing!

Dudes

 

[Lowbatts]

Re: Not in "OUR" parks

Obviously ANYONE who WALKS into the park is damaging the precious turf. ?You be the judge. ?Have you ever seen a dog run in the park? Kids on bikes? ?Picnicers? ?Kite flyers? ?Sledders or bladers or boarders? ?Again, you be the judge, have a positive attitude and don't be timid. ?You are not deliberately or otherwise damaging "their" property. ?You are removing foreign material from their pristine natural habitations.

 

[stoney56]

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Don't get me wrong. If you so much as buy a coke at a local convinience store then you're contributing to the upkeep and remember it is a PUBLIC park-it's not like you are going in with a D-9 Cat and diggin'. Although that might not be a bad idea mounting a large er coil on the back after removing 6" of top soil.

 

[BULL]

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I have gone into 3 police depts in 3 different cities asking if I could use a metal detector in their public parks.? ALLTHREE gave me the SAME answer.

You can use it anywhere you want on PUBLIC properties REGARDLESS of what it is, but if on private property you better have permission or you are going to jail.

It was plain, simple, and very much to the point

So I tried to be a smart ass and I asked them all:

So you mean I can hunt around this police station and the city courthouse if I want?

ALL THREE said: YES if you want it is legal to do so.

I about wet my pants when I got these anwers!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Carl in CO]

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I agree with the majority on here. That ordinance doesn't say no metal detecting. It says don't be obnoxious. If one really isn't damaging the park, don't worry about it.

 

[1320]

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I agree F2D.

 

[TOWcritter]

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"Injure, Damage or Deface" I don't think "popping a plug of grass" is hurting anything. Actually you are aerating the soil if you do it properly, thereby promoting the health of said grassy region. Go for it.

 

[upier]

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when in doubt ask and print it out.

You can use metal detectors in County-owned parks. Please do not use heavy implements, such as shovels, for digging. That is prohibited.

Craig Cheney,
Park Operations
483-5473

-----Original Message-----
From: Desiree Ingle
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:31 PM
To: Craig Cheney
Subject: FW: park detecting



-----Original Message-----
From: upier [mailto:upier@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:15 PM
To: Desiree Ingle
Subject: park detecting


can you give me information reguarding metal detecting utah plublic parks thanks

 

[stoney56]

Re: Not in "OUR" parks

So by the reading of "fair value payment" does that interpret to mean that they'll give you a $5 bill for a $5 gold piece? I realize that there's no hassle by PD or Park officials so keep very quiet if you find something good-by that I mean if it's a returnable class ring then it should be given back otherwise shhh.

 

[stoney56]

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Weell, you CAN show 'em 2 us. We won't tell.

 

[foolserrand]

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Just about every public park i have ever detected in has a rule similar to that. Most say something like "no digging allowed" , but metal detecting for the most part is allowed or tolerated.?

If i were you I wouldnt worry about it &? go detecting there anyway. Unless the people you have dealt with regarding permission are around & know what you look like.
? ?If you have a run in with the average park custodian ... plead ignorance.
? The problem with dealing with public officials regarding detecting is that they are ALWAYS? looking to protect their own backside & even though there may be no specific rule or ordinance against metal detecting on public property they will tell you it is not allowed.
? Most officials prefer to err on the side of caution..... that means they think it is best to not allow metal detecting even though it is pretty much harmless.

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