Jeff,
You want to read your own posts:
Jeff K said:
Mariner... Don't be so sure. I read the court papers of the arrest that Odyssey recently filed. There was no mention of the name of the shipwreck in the documents. All that's necessary is an artifact from the shipwreck, and a location. Read the bold print of the last article that I posted.
You did not claim that the
original complaint did not mention the name of the wreck, you said that there was no mention of the name of the ship in the court documents. At the time, you were trying to suggest that SSR had not publicly identified the Deliverance, and therefore could not be accused of fraud etc. As you say, SSR modified their original complaint, stating that it was a French ship sailing under the Spanish flag, just a week after their original filing, before any other action had been taken, and long before the French intervened. Even though they did not mention the Deliverance by name until later, the newspaper story that appeared in December 2002 (a copy of which you posted earlier) did mention the ship by name. They can only have got this information from SSR, because nobody else was party to it at that time. Again, this was well before Spain intervened. In fact Jim Goold intervened for Spain only after reading about the case in the Miami newspapers.
I have posted a summary of the court proceeding on Doc's History Hunters website. I know that many TreasureNet members follow that site as well, but if anybody is interested, I could re-post it here.
TR,
I appreciate your input, and realise that you are in quite a difficult position. However, the limited amount of research shared with the court is detailed in Exhibit A of their second survey status report. Though it mentions the Canadian archives, and says that shows not only that the goods were insured when the ship was seized in 1745 but that the ship was subsequently sold back to its previous French owners. However, no specific documents were filed to show this, and that is one of the points that Doc and I find very difficult to believe. Furthermore, I can find no indication that the British Government has withdrawn its statement of potential interest. SSR merely told the Court, in its third status report, that neither Britain nor Spain had come forward with anything to establish an interest. As I understand it, Spain is happy to let SSR go ahead and establish the identity of the wreck, at which time it will decide whether or not to intervene. The court left the way clear for Spain to do so, and has not dismissed any potential British claim, in the event that SSR is not able to show that Britain sold the ship after capturing it.
Can you clarify anything about Britains supposed auction of the ship sometime after 1748, when a complaint was raised about the slowness of proceedings following the 1745 capture, and 1755 when the ship was supposedly back in action as a French ship?
If you feel constrained, perhaps you can ask SSR if they will give you permission to divulge the information to this forum. After all, they were very quick to provide the supposed identity of the wreck to the Press back in 2002.
Mariner