Odd historic type site, should I do it?

[Lowbatts]

My bad. I think Relichunters should do all he can to gain permission to hit that site and I hope to see some great finds from there!

 

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[BuckleBoy]

--but if you're posting here, then you're thinking about hunting without permission. 


-Buckles

?

Alot of members post here.



does it mean they are  thinking about hunting without permission ?

Calm down everyone.

No threats or attacks needed

This was Not an attack, jeff. 

If he's posting asking the question about whether or not he should hunt without permission--then he's considering hunting without permission. 

Folks that only hunt with permission would never need to ask such a question on a forum such as this.

And the renegades that hunt without permission would never post such a question either.



Regards,



Buckles

 

[jeff of pa]

I don't see anywhere where he said he was going to do it anyway.

Just because someone asks if they should hunt without permission
dosn't mean they should be Chastised for asking.

We are here to Help.
not to Twist their words, &

Not tell them "I'd shoot you in the face"

Not an attack ?

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Buckles, this type question could also be one of "do I need" permission in the first place, at a certain type site. You are seeing the word "permission" and assuming (understandible interpretation) that that merely assumes that some place is, by definition, off-limits (and thus leading to their question). But someone posing the question may not even be "at that point" yet. They may merely not know if a certain described place is something that is even in that class of site, to begin with. At least that's how I took the question.

There are LOTS of places where permission is not needed, or would be silly to think one should ask. Even though there's nothing from stopping someone from doing so, it may not be necessary.

 

[jeff of pa]

Buckles, this type question could also be one of "do I need" permission in the first place, at a certain type site. You are seeing the word "permission" and assuming (understandible interpretation) that that merely assumes that some place is, by definition, off-limits (and thus leading to their question). But someone posing the question may not even be "at that point" yet. They may merely not know if a certain described place is something that is even in that class of site, to begin with. At least that's how I took the question.

There are LOTS of places where permission is not needed, or would be silly to think one should ask. Even though there's nothing from stopping someone from doing so, it may not be necessary.

I took it that he was asking if he needed

"Special" Permission because of it possably being Historical.

Which I would have said No.

Just permission of a Land Owner if not

Twp. Boro, or county land.

But then again, I'm going by my area.

some areas Twp. Boro, or county property isn't open to the public.

 

[BuckleBoy]

His first post:

"being on the road people will watch me"


Which tells me that there Is a conscience there, and the poster of this thread knows that they will be doing something that may result in being given the boot, or even being arrested--depending on local laws.  Reading statements like these, I hardly think this person is clueless about the ramifications of getting caught.


From his other post, about cutting through playground infrastructure to get at coins below the netting:

Hmm your probably right, because there is dirt under the netting, so they probably sat it right on top of historic coins.

Here again, is the phrase "historic"--which to this member must mean "anything old."  So to relichunters, this site in question here is just an "old site"--not a "historic site."  Coins can be old.  They are seldom "historic."  So I don't think the initial question here had much at all to do with whether or not it was a protected site or not.  Relichunters himself said that it was not marked with any signs to that effect.  The question was simply one of whether or not to hunt without permission. And I have given him my thoughts on that topic.


-Buckles

 

[jeff of pa]

His first post:

"being on the road people will watch me"


Which tells me that there Is a conscience there, and the poster of this thread knows that they will be doing something that may result in being given the boot, or even being arrested--depending on local laws. Reading statements like these, I hardly think this person is clueless about the ramifications of getting caught.



-Buckles

I did a Town Square with Permission.

My only thought was

"being on the road people will watch me"

call it conscience or call it being uncomfortable,
took me the whole first day to get over continued traffic
of people stopping at the stop sign and checking me out
while waiting their turn to go
before I was comfortable.

I hardly think this person is clueless about the ramifications of getting caught
also and wasn't considering it.

just considering hunting it even if somone going by may think it's historical

 

[SHERMANVILLE ILLINOIS]

Long, long winter and all the ramifications.

 

[jeff of pa]

even so.

we can Only try to steer people the right way.
It is not our place to control the world.

or Make physical threats.

At least not where I see them

Or find out they were made Via PM

 

[BuckleBoy]

even so.

we can Only try to steer people the right way.
It is not our place to control the world.

or Make physical threats.

At least not where I see them 

Or find out they were made Via PM

This is my Last Reply to this thread, Jeff--unless I am brought back into this through someone quoting my replies or making comments directly to me.  They can send me a PM or step into the chat room to further discuss anything they wish. 


This member seems to be only interested in folks telling him to go ahead and hunt.  (Which is not really asking for advice.)


No PM's were sent to him or anyone else. 


I don't give a damn about controlling this Crazy world--but I DO care a Great Deal about the future of our hobby, Jeff.




Best Wishes,



Buckles

 

[relichunters]

On the comment about people watching me from the road. As jeff said, would be uncomfortable, of course if you are by a road a bored police officer is probably going to stop and question what you are doing, or pass by a few times and watch you.

When I said I want advice, I mean would you detect (regardless of getting permission or not getting permission) this area even tho its on a main road and people will watch you? I was going to post pictures so you can see what the area looks like, to see if you think its even worth for me to get permission or not. An area about a mile or two away from it has a historic sign called Edge Hill, which is Edge Hill Road, but has nothing to do with this property.

 

[docmann]

For all of my esteemed colleagues, it sounds like Relichunter just wanted a little off-the-cuff friendly advice. Indeed, we all feel pretty strongly about "messing without the blessing", but he's not suggesting conspiracy to commit murder here. Perhaps the weight of our recommendations will give some direction. I have enjoyed this website immensely because of the friendly and helpful tenor. This group of participants is tops, and I continue to be impressed with the helpful advice, and even more so by the depth of experience and knowledge as demonstrated by the site's participants. That most of you feel very strongly about this issue gives some indication of the professionalism and integrity of the group as a whole.

Relichunter: I don't think anyone here is forming a lynching party yet, but it's easy to see some of these cowboys take this permission business pretty seriously. While there will occasionally be a piece of earth that eludes such efforts, most of the time permission can be had with just a little homework and a friendly call. Don't let the comments cause too much distress, rather consider them an indication of the passion felt by these MDers. Hope you haven't been offended as I'm sure these good people want only what's best for the discipline of beeping, and all of those connected with the pastime, including you.

Good luck, and we all look forward to a fruitful search. Keep us informed

docmann