Old pewter fleur de lis button

[MissSharon]

 

[villival]

That is a cool button, but it doesn't look like a fleur de lis. It looks more like an Edwardian plume, but perhaps someone else will chime in.

 

[Blak bart]

I like it too....welcome to T-NET !!

 

[CASPER-2]

Villival is right - not [h=2]fleur de lis - Welsh plume[/h]The symbol of three feathers was popular in ancient Christianity, especially among the Medici, who used them as an emblem representing the three virtues of Faith, Hope and Charity

 

[Digger RJ]

Nice!!! Congrats!!!

 

[Wildcat1750]

Cool button and I learned something new. I didn't know that a Welsh Plume was a thing...

 

[MissSharon]

Thank you I've learned something new as well.

 

[CRUSADER]

Thank you I've learned something new as well.

Forget what you just learnt.
It's not the Prince of Wales Feathers, if thats what people meant.
I agree you have a stylized Fleur-de-lis.

I'm not sure if its pewter though as they are not 2 piece like yours, I'm going with 20th C blazer button.

 

[villival]

Red Coat, you may be right, but I am a born and raised New Orleanian and have never seen a fleur de lis with the top, middle part like that, that is to say, divided like a flower and basically the same height.

It should be obviously higher that the two parts flanking it and come to a point after curving inward.

If stylized means *******ization of a known symbol, then you may be right. However, if that's the case, it could be anything, even a stylized (*******ized) version of an Edwardian plume.

It simply doesn't look like any fleur de lis I have ever seen.

That said, I admire your extensive knowledge on many subjects and always look forward to reading about it on this forum.

 

[Red-Coat]

Red Coat, you may be right, but I am a born and raised New Orleanian and have never seen a fleur de lis with the top, middle part like that, that is to say, divided like a flower and basically the same height.

It should be obviously higher that the two parts flanking it and come to a point after curving inward.

If stylized means *******ization of a known symbol, then you may be right. However, if that's the case, it could be anything, even a stylized (*******ized) version of an Edwardian plume.

It simply doesn't look like any fleur de lis I have ever seen.

That said, I admire your extensive knowledge on many subjects and always look forward to reading about it on this forum.

Thanks... but I think you're confusing me with 'Crusader', who made that comment. Nevertheless, I completely agree with what he says. It's not a 'Welsh Plume' in the sense of being feathers as used by the Prince of Wales. Look at the bases of the three items, which are not at all feather-like in that they aren't quilled or shafted. It's not really a fleur-de-lis in a true heraldic sense either but that's what it most closely resembles as a stylised depiction.

 

[villival]

You're right Red. Both you and Cru are highly knowledgeable.

I just don't think it looks like a fleur de lis. And to be accurate, I did say it only LOOKS more like an Edwardian plume.

That said, you guys rock. I learn so much on this site.

Forgive my manners. Welcome Miss Sharon. What a great way to learn about history. Just dig it out of the ground yourself.

 

[CRUSADER]

You're right Red. Both you and Cru are highly knowledgeable.

I just don't think it looks like a fleur de lis. And to be accurate, I did say it only LOOKS more like an Edwardian plume.

That said, you guys rock. I learn so much on this site.

Forgive my manners. Welcome Miss Sharon. What a great way to learn about history. Just dig it out of the ground yourself.

I give you the best reason I have why its 'copying' a Fleur-de-lis design, I find many Lead tokens copying that design dating from from the 16th C - 18th C & many of those stylized versions are no-where near as convincing as this one on this 20th C button. Just shows you how many variants there are out there & there are many, not just 1.