One is a Clovis or dalton? Updated 2-22-09

[DANGLANGLEY]

I'd like to get an identification on 2 points and what you think they are worth if you all don't mind helping me out. These were found in Scott County, Tennessee under a cliff/ overhang on private property about 35 years ago. They were found right next to each other. I am interested in selling them to get me a new metal detector. I'd rather not sell them but I can't raise the money any other way. If you all could help me I sure would appreciate it very much.

DANGLANGLEY

 

[ohioaxeman]

Re: Clovis or dalton?

i'd have to say dalton on the first one dang!!!! first thing that came to mind! JMHO

 

[DANGLANGLEY]

Re: Clovis or dalton?

i'd have to say dalton on the first one dang!!!! first thing that came to mind! JMHO

Thank you very much ohioaxeman. I have no clue what one would be worth. Do you have a guess?

DANGLANGLEY

 

[ohioaxeman]

Re: Clovis or dalton?

hard to tell what its worth unless i was holding it...you may get 250 -500 bucks.. but like i said before, its just my opinion on it being a dalton, and the flute is another story! stick around and we'll see what others say!

 

[lostlake88]

Re: Clovis or dalton?

You have a very nice REDSTONE.

 

[Ohio_Doug]

Re: Clovis or dalton?

Maybe a modified Clovis? No doubt later cultures found earlier points just like we do today. Maybe a late Paleo or even early Archaic picked up a Clovis and modified it to their likeing, the possibilities are almost endless. Sometimes it's a guessing game identifying points such as yours, and I must say, it's a nice one regardless what it may be labeled as being.

 

[Carolina Points]

Re: Clovis or dalton?

Anyone know if it could have been a cumberland and just reworked. Cumberland, clovis or what ever it is, its a very nice and unique point. Just by looking I would say dalton know but it being b/w two different point types would this make the artifact worth anymore than regular. Someone will help you out and give a answer.
Clint

 

[Rege-PA]

Re: Clovis or dalton?

Looks to be a Redstone...rare, rare point.

 

[seger98]

Re: Clovis or dalton?

Nice points!

 

[pickaway]

Re: Clovis or dalton?

Killer piece whatever it is...

 

[SoIll]

Re: Clovis or dalton?

Why isn't it a cumberland. It was found in tennessee and it's fluted all the way up. Killer point man, I'd say you could get a pretty good metal detector for that one.

 

[DANGLANGLEY]

Re: Clovis or dalton?

Thanks for all of the replies. I have tried to figure out what type point it is but I couldn't come up with an answer that I felt even a little bit satisfied with. You all are great to help me out with this. Every opinion I can get will be appreciated. Thanks so much.

DANGLANGLEY

 

[sonny61]

Re: Clovis or dalton?

Looks like my cumberland except my two cumberlands have fluting on both sides. Nice points.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Re: Clovis or dalton? (Pics of beads added 1-21-09)

Here is about 85 shell beads that I found in a cave in Roane county, Tennessee about 33 years ago. I would be interested in selling these also. Thank you for looking.

DANGLANGLEY

What would want for the Beads?. I would be very interested in getting them from you. Let me know either on here or through a PM. Thanks.

 

[DANGLANGLEY]

Re: One is a Clovis or dalton? And what do you think they are worth?

I just wanted to say that I removed the pictures of the beads. I kept getting a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach every time I thought about selling them. It still makes me smile every time I think about finding them. If I could get some more feedback on how much you all think I could sell the arrowheads for I would appreciate it very much. Have a good one.

DANGLANGLEY

 

[capgun]

Re: One is a Clovis or dalton? And what do you think they are worth?

hello,

I would like to look at those points. I would like to have a chance to buy them. I live in Tennessee. I would meet you somewhere to look at them or whatever. I found a point like that last year and it was red. It was fluted on one side also. I would appricate it if you would give me an e-mail at jeremycapley@hotmail.com. I am not a dealer just a collector. I would give a fair price.

nice finds

 

[DANGLANGLEY]

Re: One is a Clovis or dalton? And what do you think they are worth? Pics addes 1-24

Here's some more pics of the second point. What type do you think it is? Thanks!

DANGLANGLEY

 

[Jonnyreb]

Re: One is a Clovis or dalton? And what do you think they are worth? Pics addes 1-24

Like others had already said, Redstone on the first one, and a dang nice one...(I would never be able to afford it and give you a fair honest amount for it though), and the other one, I think is what is called a Fishspear point.(And the nicest one I thing I ever seen) Not that it was used for fishing but it was origionally thought to resemble a fish when first identified as a diagnostic point type. Those are some SUPER points though!!
Good luck and I hope you get a decent price for your finds if thats what you want.

 

[DANGLANGLEY]

Re: One is a Clovis or dalton? Updated 2-09-09

I decided to send that arrowhead off to get it authenticated. By the time I paid for the authentication, shipping, insurance, return shipping, insurance and return receipt it cost $58.00.... Dang, I didn't think it would cost that much. I guess that if I ever decide to do that again I better be sure I have a very good one to begin with, lol... I'll let you know what type he says it is. Have a good one.

DANGLANGLEY

 

[Newt]

Re: One is a Clovis or dalton? Updated 2-09-09

I'm going to say it's a re-worked paleo.
Second one looks like a killer Duvall style point.
Newt