origin age and type of small buckle

[tinpan]

hi this the 2nd buckle found today Any ideas on age orgin and type of buckle

tinpan

 

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[Silver Searcher]

Vest, Trouser Susspender Buckle...late 1900s

http://www.jarnaginco.com/suspenders.htm

SS

 

[tinpan]

Thanks for the reply Was this design used in the 1800's ? Deepest target of the day and here the rest of the finds which all date fron the 1800,s

tinpan

1 &1/2 chiness cash coins circa 1850
1/4 of a Plenty and peace token of Victoria 1862
Centre piece off a cricket buckle [ball in hand]
large musket ball
horse saddle sheild [brass]
plated spoon circa 1900
pressed copper button
brass hook

 

[Silver Searcher]

Well I would say so, it looks to be a Copper/Alloy (Bronze) Buckle, so I would date that 1800s, the stamped Brass came later I believe.

SS

 

[kuger]

Yep,SS is right although I would date it a bit earlier

 

[CC Hunter]

Tinpan,

That particular style and design of clothing strap buckle was patented in 1855. They are typically found in sites dating late 1850's through 1880's or so. In dry arid desert locations, I have literally found a handful of the steel buckles with the 1855 patent date marking, in sites that were most active in the 1870's. The brass ones seem to be the only surviving detectable examples though, from areas where small ferrous targets are usually rusted away, or discriminated out.

Here is an earlier discussion on the subject:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,431518.msg3135012.html#msg3135012

CC Hunter

 

[Silver Searcher]

Yep,SS is right although I would date it a bit earlier

I meant to put 1900c not hundreds

SS

 

[CC Hunter]

Well I would say so, it looks to be a Copper/Alloy (Bronze) Buckle, so I would date that 1800s, the stamped Brass came later I believe.

SS

Silver Searcher,

The stamped brass buckles of the patent design by Sheldon Hartshorn, are also found dated 1855. I have personally found both the brass and steel examples, on the same sites, from the same time period (circa. 1855-1885)

http://www.google.com/patents?id=7G...ed_pages&cad=1#v=onepage&q=buckle 1855&f=true

CC Hunter

 

[tennessee digger]

That buckle is a suspender, pants adjuster, type of buckle. Because of the 2 tines on it I would date it to the 1850's till late 1860's. Sore of that pattern have a patent date on them and some also have a makers name. We did that style in a lot of civil war era sites around here in Tennessee. Good find. Tennessee digger

 

[Silver Searcher]

That buckle is a suspender, pants adjuster, type of buckle. Because of the 2 tines on it I would date it to the 1850's till late 1860's. Sore of that pattern have a patent date on them and some also have a makers name. We did that style in a lot of civil war era sites around here in Tennessee. Good find. Tennessee digger

Isn't that what's already been said

SS

 

[Silver Searcher]

Well I would say so, it looks to be a Copper/Alloy (Bronze) Buckle, so I would date that 1800s, the stamped Brass came later I believe.

SS

Silver Searcher,

The stamped brass buckles of the patent design by Sheldon Hartshorn, are also found dated 1855. I have personally found both the brass and steel examples, on the same sites, from the same time period (circa. 1855-1885)

http://www.google.com/patents?id=7G...ed_pages&cad=1#v=onepage&q=buckle 1855&f=true

CC Hunter

Yes I know, I have the book some were with the patent, I just typed my reply of the cuff, with out checking the book

SS

 

[tennessee digger]

Also wanted to ad that they were also used on vest and CC Hunter is right in his post. If you clean off the little flat bar that the 2 sharp tines is touching you may see a patient date. Tennessee digger

 

[CC Hunter]

Yes I know, I have the book some were with the patent, I just typed my reply of the cuff, with out checking the book

SS

Silver Searcher,

Typing a reply "off the cuff" is only allowed for buttons.

For the topic at hand, one must "buckle down" for the proper information.

CC Hunter

 

[kuger]

Yep,SS is right although I would date it a bit earlier

I meant to put 1900c not hundreds

SS

I knew what you meant
These are the most common found buckle in our mid 19th Cent sites

 

[Brian C.]

If you cleaned it up, you might find a pat. date, here is one I found with the date, nice find. HH