Pipe tamper ?

[robfinds]

Had this a while back, think it's a pipe tamper/cleaner. Do any pipe smokers out there know ?.

Hh Robert.

 

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[shaun7]

This is a picture of the thingy besides a complete pastry jigger I found a while back. Although only a small jigger, see how robust the metal had to be to support the spigot to fit the cutting wheel. The metal at the bottom of the thingy is very flimsy in comparison. And if it's not complete you can only guess it would have tapered down even more.
HH Robert.

Yes I can see that, but your jigger seems fat compared to others I have seen. I guess it would depend upon what you are cutting. Pastry is pretty soft and does not have to be pressed down hard.

Something else then. Have you ever though about a key? Does not have to be a normal key type, but one with a simple head on it.
On the handle side, on the ends I think the design is there only for decoration, that they don't have any function.
Hmm... maybe if we keep thinking enough we will find out what it is. You never know if we come back to a pipe tamper...
You think the end is not broken, it sure seems unregular to me though... It just feels like there had to be something on the end...

Correct pastry is soft, so why do finds like this always seem to be broken on one end. The end were the wheel should be if there pastry jiggers , heavy handed bakers ?.

Thats a good question for sure. I don't really know. Only I would think the longer a object is the more chance it has to get caught by a plow, and if its sitting at that moment too fast in the dirt it will break I guess. For instance I don't think you could ever find a sword in a plowed field, if it would get caught up by a deep plow it would surely break (I think)...

So would a sword always break in the same place if hit by the plough, I once found part of the handle of a Viking sword, but thats a different story.

do you still have it Rob, or a pic?

i'd like to see it!

not doubting you for a moment, it just sounds like i am

 

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[robfinds]

This is a picture of the thingy besides a complete pastry jigger I found a while back. Although only a small jigger, see how robust the metal had to be to support the spigot to fit the cutting wheel. The metal at the bottom of the thingy is very flimsy in comparison. And if it's not complete you can only guess it would have tapered down even more.
HH Robert.

Yes I can see that, but your jigger seems fat compared to others I have seen. I guess it would depend upon what you are cutting. Pastry is pretty soft and does not have to be pressed down hard.

Something else then. Have you ever though about a key? Does not have to be a normal key type, but one with a simple head on it.
On the handle side, on the ends I think the design is there only for decoration, that they don't have any function.
Hmm... maybe if we keep thinking enough we will find out what it is. You never know if we come back to a pipe tamper...
You think the end is not broken, it sure seems unregular to me though... It just feels like there had to be something on the end...

Correct pastry is soft, so why do finds like this always seem to be broken on one end. The end were the wheel should be if there pastry jiggers , heavy handed bakers ?.

Thats a good question for sure. I don't really know. Only I would think the longer a object is the more chance it has to get caught by a plow, and if its sitting at that moment too fast in the dirt it will break I guess. For instance I don't think you could ever find a sword in a plowed field, if it would get caught up by a deep plow it would surely break (I think)...

So would a sword always break in the same place if hit by the plough, I once found part of the handle of a Viking sword, but thats a different story.

do you still have it Rob, or a pic?

i'd like to see it!

not doubting you for a moment, it just sounds like i am

Hello Shaun, I sold it to the Scunthorpe museum, but iv'e got a written description and a nice drawing that they did for me. I will find it and post it . A while back I went to the museum in Dublin and saw the exact same handle decoration on a Viking sword in their collection.

 

[shaun7]

This is a picture of the thingy besides a complete pastry jigger I found a while back. Although only a small jigger, see how robust the metal had to be to support the spigot to fit the cutting wheel. The metal at the bottom of the thingy is very flimsy in comparison. And if it's not complete you can only guess it would have tapered down even more.
HH Robert.

Yes I can see that, but your jigger seems fat compared to others I have seen. I guess it would depend upon what you are cutting. Pastry is pretty soft and does not have to be pressed down hard.

Something else then. Have you ever though about a key? Does not have to be a normal key type, but one with a simple head on it.
On the handle side, on the ends I think the design is there only for decoration, that they don't have any function.
Hmm... maybe if we keep thinking enough we will find out what it is. You never know if we come back to a pipe tamper...
You think the end is not broken, it sure seems unregular to me though... It just feels like there had to be something on the end...

Correct pastry is soft, so why do finds like this always seem to be broken on one end. The end were the wheel should be if there pastry jiggers , heavy handed bakers ?.

Thats a good question for sure. I don't really know. Only I would think the longer a object is the more chance it has to get caught by a plow, and if its sitting at that moment too fast in the dirt it will break I guess. For instance I don't think you could ever find a sword in a plowed field, if it would get caught up by a deep plow it would surely break (I think)...

So would a sword always break in the same place if hit by the plough, I once found part of the handle of a Viking sword, but thats a different story.

do you still have it Rob, or a pic?

i'd like to see it!

not doubting you for a moment, it just sounds like i am

Hello Shaun, I sold it to the Scunthorpe museum, but iv'e got a written description and a nice drawing that they did for me. I will find it and post it . A while back I went to the museum in Dublin and saw the exact same handle decoration on a Viking sword in their collection.

viking stuff must be a buzz to find!

was it a large piece (easily recognizable)?

 

[robfinds]

This is a picture of the thingy besides a complete pastry jigger I found a while back. Although only a small jigger, see how robust the metal had to be to support the spigot to fit the cutting wheel. The metal at the bottom of the thingy is very flimsy in comparison. And if it's not complete you can only guess it would have tapered down even more.
HH Robert.

Yes I can see that, but your jigger seems fat compared to others I have seen. I guess it would depend upon what you are cutting. Pastry is pretty soft and does not have to be pressed down hard.

Something else then. Have you ever though about a key? Does not have to be a normal key type, but one with a simple head on it.
On the handle side, on the ends I think the design is there only for decoration, that they don't have any function.
Hmm... maybe if we keep thinking enough we will find out what it is. You never know if we come back to a pipe tamper...
You think the end is not broken, it sure seems unregular to me though... It just feels like there had to be something on the end...

Correct pastry is soft, so why do finds like this always seem to be broken on one end. The end were the wheel should be if there pastry jiggers , heavy handed bakers ?.

Thats a good question for sure. I don't really know. Only I would think the longer a object is the more chance it has to get caught by a plow, and if its sitting at that moment too fast in the dirt it will break I guess. For instance I don't think you could ever find a sword in a plowed field, if it would get caught up by a deep plow it would surely break (I think)...

So would a sword always break in the same place if hit by the plough, I once found part of the handle of a Viking sword, but thats a different story.

do you still have it Rob, or a pic?

i'd like to see it!

not doubting you for a moment, it just sounds like i am

Hello Shaun, I sold it to the Scunthorpe museum, but iv'e got a written description and a nice drawing that they did for me. I will find it and post it . A while back I went to the museum in Dublin and saw the exact same handle decoration on a Viking sword in their collection.

viking stuff must be a buzz to find!

was it a large piece (easily recognizable)?

Far from it Shaun, to me it looked like a bit of gilded medieval metalwork. Not very big at all, in the 90s we stumbled on a site where in 873 AD according to the Anglo Saxon Chronicles "the force went into Northumbria ,and took winter quarters at Torksey in Lindsey; then the Mercians made peace with them". The force were at least two Viking armies lead by such as Ivan the boneless. Our finds proved that the force comprised of Danish and Swedish Vikings. I personaly found on that site the largest amount of single Arabic dirham fragments found in England. Also many Saxon pennies some stuck together, these were paid as tribute to the Vikings in the South of England .The thing is the site is not at Torksey, not a million miles away. but that's for me to know.

 

[shaun7]

This is a picture of the thingy besides a complete pastry jigger I found a while back. Although only a small jigger, see how robust the metal had to be to support the spigot to fit the cutting wheel. The metal at the bottom of the thingy is very flimsy in comparison. And if it's not complete you can only guess it would have tapered down even more.
HH Robert.

Yes I can see that, but your jigger seems fat compared to others I have seen. I guess it would depend upon what you are cutting. Pastry is pretty soft and does not have to be pressed down hard.

Something else then. Have you ever though about a key? Does not have to be a normal key type, but one with a simple head on it.
On the handle side, on the ends I think the design is there only for decoration, that they don't have any function.
Hmm... maybe if we keep thinking enough we will find out what it is. You never know if we come back to a pipe tamper...
You think the end is not broken, it sure seems unregular to me though... It just feels like there had to be something on the end...

Correct pastry is soft, so why do finds like this always seem to be broken on one end. The end were the wheel should be if there pastry jiggers , heavy handed bakers ?.

Thats a good question for sure. I don't really know. Only I would think the longer a object is the more chance it has to get caught by a plow, and if its sitting at that moment too fast in the dirt it will break I guess. For instance I don't think you could ever find a sword in a plowed field, if it would get caught up by a deep plow it would surely break (I think)...

So would a sword always break in the same place if hit by the plough, I once found part of the handle of a Viking sword, but thats a different story.

do you still have it Rob, or a pic?

i'd like to see it!

not doubting you for a moment, it just sounds like i am

Hello Shaun, I sold it to the Scunthorpe museum, but iv'e got a written description and a nice drawing that they did for me. I will find it and post it . A while back I went to the museum in Dublin and saw the exact same handle decoration on a Viking sword in their collection.

viking stuff must be a buzz to find!

was it a large piece (easily recognizable)?

Far from it Shaun, to me it looked like a bit of gilded medieval metalwork. Not very big at all, in the 90s we stumbled on a site where in 873 AD according to the Anglo Saxon Chronicles "the force went into Northumbria ,and took winter quarters at Torksey in Lindsey; then the Mercians made peace with them". The force were at least two Viking armies lead by such as Ivan the boneless. Our finds proved that the force comprised of Danish and Swedish Vikings. I personaly found on that site the largest amount of single Arabic dirham fragments found in England. Also many Saxon pennies some stuck together, these were paid as tribute to the Vikings in the South of England .The thing is the site is not at Torksey, not a million miles away. but that's for me to know.

the old arabic dirham i think i may have a couple of them

i'd love to have been there i bet your detectors paid for itself over and over!

what is arabic dirham? must be viking pottery

 

[robfinds]

This is a picture of the thingy besides a complete pastry jigger I found a while back. Although only a small jigger, see how robust the metal had to be to support the spigot to fit the cutting wheel. The metal at the bottom of the thingy is very flimsy in comparison. And if it's not complete you can only guess it would have tapered down even more.
HH Robert.

Yes I can see that, but your jigger seems fat compared to others I have seen. I guess it would depend upon what you are cutting. Pastry is pretty soft and does not have to be pressed down hard.

Something else then. Have you ever though about a key? Does not have to be a normal key type, but one with a simple head on it.
On the handle side, on the ends I think the design is there only for decoration, that they don't have any function.
Hmm... maybe if we keep thinking enough we will find out what it is. You never know if we come back to a pipe tamper...
You think the end is not broken, it sure seems unregular to me though... It just feels like there had to be something on the end...

Correct pastry is soft, so why do finds like this always seem to be broken on one end. The end were the wheel should be if there pastry jiggers , heavy handed bakers ?.

Thats a good question for sure. I don't really know. Only I would think the longer a object is the more chance it has to get caught by a plow, and if its sitting at that moment too fast in the dirt it will break I guess. For instance I don't think you could ever find a sword in a plowed field, if it would get caught up by a deep plow it would surely break (I think)...

So would a sword always break in the same place if hit by the plough, I once found part of the handle of a Viking sword, but thats a different story.

do you still have it Rob, or a pic?

i'd like to see it!

not doubting you for a moment, it just sounds like i am

Hello Shaun, I sold it to the Scunthorpe museum, but iv'e got a written description and a nice drawing that they did for me. I will find it and post it . A while back I went to the museum in Dublin and saw the exact same handle decoration on a Viking sword in their collection.

viking stuff must be a buzz to find!

was it a large piece (easily recognizable)?

Far from it Shaun, to me it looked like a bit of gilded medieval metalwork. Not very big at all, in the 90s we stumbled on a site where in 873 AD according to the Anglo Saxon Chronicles "the force went into Northumbria ,and took winter quarters at Torksey in Lindsey; then the Mercians made peace with them". The force were at least two Viking armies lead by such as Ivan the boneless. Our finds proved that the force comprised of Danish and Swedish Vikings. I personaly found on that site the largest amount of single Arabic dirham fragments found in England. Also many Saxon pennies some stuck together, these were paid as tribute to the Vikings in the South of England .The thing is the site is not at Torksey, not a million miles away. but that's for me to know.

the old arabic dirham i think i may have a couple of them

i'd love to have been there i bet your detectors paid for itself over and over!

what is arabic dirham? must be viking pottery

Hammered silver coins Shaun. From places like Iraq, the Vikings were trading slaves with them for silver.

 

[shaun7]

This is a picture of the thingy besides a complete pastry jigger I found a while back. Although only a small jigger, see how robust the metal had to be to support the spigot to fit the cutting wheel. The metal at the bottom of the thingy is very flimsy in comparison. And if it's not complete you can only guess it would have tapered down even more.
HH Robert.

Yes I can see that, but your jigger seems fat compared to others I have seen. I guess it would depend upon what you are cutting. Pastry is pretty soft and does not have to be pressed down hard.

Something else then. Have you ever though about a key? Does not have to be a normal key type, but one with a simple head on it.
On the handle side, on the ends I think the design is there only for decoration, that they don't have any function.
Hmm... maybe if we keep thinking enough we will find out what it is. You never know if we come back to a pipe tamper...
You think the end is not broken, it sure seems unregular to me though... It just feels like there had to be something on the end...

Correct pastry is soft, so why do finds like this always seem to be broken on one end. The end were the wheel should be if there pastry jiggers , heavy handed bakers ?.

Thats a good question for sure. I don't really know. Only I would think the longer a object is the more chance it has to get caught by a plow, and if its sitting at that moment too fast in the dirt it will break I guess. For instance I don't think you could ever find a sword in a plowed field, if it would get caught up by a deep plow it would surely break (I think)...

So would a sword always break in the same place if hit by the plough, I once found part of the handle of a Viking sword, but thats a different story.

do you still have it Rob, or a pic?

i'd like to see it!

not doubting you for a moment, it just sounds like i am

Hello Shaun, I sold it to the Scunthorpe museum, but iv'e got a written description and a nice drawing that they did for me. I will find it and post it . A while back I went to the museum in Dublin and saw the exact same handle decoration on a Viking sword in their collection.

viking stuff must be a buzz to find!

was it a large piece (easily recognizable)?

Far from it Shaun, to me it looked like a bit of gilded medieval metalwork. Not very big at all, in the 90s we stumbled on a site where in 873 AD according to the Anglo Saxon Chronicles "the force went into Northumbria ,and took winter quarters at Torksey in Lindsey; then the Mercians made peace with them". The force were at least two Viking armies lead by such as Ivan the boneless. Our finds proved that the force comprised of Danish and Swedish Vikings. I personaly found on that site the largest amount of single Arabic dirham fragments found in England. Also many Saxon pennies some stuck together, these were paid as tribute to the Vikings in the South of England .The thing is the site is not at Torksey, not a million miles away. but that's for me to know.

the old arabic dirham i think i may have a couple of them

i'd love to have been there i bet your detectors paid for itself over and over!

what is arabic dirham? must be viking pottery

Hammered silver coins Shaun. From places like Iraq, the Vikings were trading slaves with them for silver.

oh nice!!!! why only fragments, smashed up by the plough?

was it a hoard?

 

[robfinds]

This is a picture of the thingy besides a complete pastry jigger I found a while back. Although only a small jigger, see how robust the metal had to be to support the spigot to fit the cutting wheel. The metal at the bottom of the thingy is very flimsy in comparison. And if it's not complete you can only guess it would have tapered down even more.
HH Robert.

Yes I can see that, but your jigger seems fat compared to others I have seen. I guess it would depend upon what you are cutting. Pastry is pretty soft and does not have to be pressed down hard.

Something else then. Have you ever though about a key? Does not have to be a normal key type, but one with a simple head on it.
On the handle side, on the ends I think the design is there only for decoration, that they don't have any function.
Hmm... maybe if we keep thinking enough we will find out what it is. You never know if we come back to a pipe tamper...
You think the end is not broken, it sure seems unregular to me though... It just feels like there had to be something on the end...

Correct pastry is soft, so why do finds like this always seem to be broken on one end. The end were the wheel should be if there pastry jiggers , heavy handed bakers ?.

Thats a good question for sure. I don't really know. Only I would think the longer a object is the more chance it has to get caught by a plow, and if its sitting at that moment too fast in the dirt it will break I guess. For instance I don't think you could ever find a sword in a plowed field, if it would get caught up by a deep plow it would surely break (I think)...

So would a sword always break in the same place if hit by the plough, I once found part of the handle of a Viking sword, but thats a different story.

do you still have it Rob, or a pic?

i'd like to see it!

not doubting you for a moment, it just sounds like i am

Hello Shaun, I sold it to the Scunthorpe museum, but iv'e got a written description and a nice drawing that they did for me. I will find it and post it . A while back I went to the museum in Dublin and saw the exact same handle decoration on a Viking sword in their collection.

viking stuff must be a buzz to find!

was it a large piece (easily recognizable)?

Far from it Shaun, to me it looked like a bit of gilded medieval metalwork. Not very big at all, in the 90s we stumbled on a site where in 873 AD according to the Anglo Saxon Chronicles "the force went into Northumbria ,and took winter quarters at Torksey in Lindsey; then the Mercians made peace with them". The force were at least two Viking armies lead by such as Ivan the boneless. Our finds proved that the force comprised of Danish and Swedish Vikings. I personaly found on that site the largest amount of single Arabic dirham fragments found in England. Also many Saxon pennies some stuck together, these were paid as tribute to the Vikings in the South of England .The thing is the site is not at Torksey, not a million miles away. but that's for me to know.

the old arabic dirham i think i may have a couple of them

i'd love to have been there i bet your detectors paid for itself over and over!

what is arabic dirham? must be viking pottery

Hammered silver coins Shaun. From places like Iraq, the Vikings were trading slaves with them for silver.

oh nice!!!! why only fragments, smashed up by the plough?

was it a hoard?

At that time the vikings didn't use coins, silver was just used as bullion. So coins were simply used by weight and broke up. all of the framents I found were very roughly broke up in to quarters.

 

[shaun7]

This is a picture of the thingy besides a complete pastry jigger I found a while back. Although only a small jigger, see how robust the metal had to be to support the spigot to fit the cutting wheel. The metal at the bottom of the thingy is very flimsy in comparison. And if it's not complete you can only guess it would have tapered down even more.
HH Robert.

Yes I can see that, but your jigger seems fat compared to others I have seen. I guess it would depend upon what you are cutting. Pastry is pretty soft and does not have to be pressed down hard.

Something else then. Have you ever though about a key? Does not have to be a normal key type, but one with a simple head on it.
On the handle side, on the ends I think the design is there only for decoration, that they don't have any function.
Hmm... maybe if we keep thinking enough we will find out what it is. You never know if we come back to a pipe tamper...
You think the end is not broken, it sure seems unregular to me though... It just feels like there had to be something on the end...

Correct pastry is soft, so why do finds like this always seem to be broken on one end. The end were the wheel should be if there pastry jiggers , heavy handed bakers ?.

Thats a good question for sure. I don't really know. Only I would think the longer a object is the more chance it has to get caught by a plow, and if its sitting at that moment too fast in the dirt it will break I guess. For instance I don't think you could ever find a sword in a plowed field, if it would get caught up by a deep plow it would surely break (I think)...

So would a sword always break in the same place if hit by the plough, I once found part of the handle of a Viking sword, but thats a different story.

do you still have it Rob, or a pic?

i'd like to see it!

not doubting you for a moment, it just sounds like i am

Hello Shaun, I sold it to the Scunthorpe museum, but iv'e got a written description and a nice drawing that they did for me. I will find it and post it . A while back I went to the museum in Dublin and saw the exact same handle decoration on a Viking sword in their collection.

viking stuff must be a buzz to find!

was it a large piece (easily recognizable)?

Far from it Shaun, to me it looked like a bit of gilded medieval metalwork. Not very big at all, in the 90s we stumbled on a site where in 873 AD according to the Anglo Saxon Chronicles "the force went into Northumbria ,and took winter quarters at Torksey in Lindsey; then the Mercians made peace with them". The force were at least two Viking armies lead by such as Ivan the boneless. Our finds proved that the force comprised of Danish and Swedish Vikings. I personaly found on that site the largest amount of single Arabic dirham fragments found in England. Also many Saxon pennies some stuck together, these were paid as tribute to the Vikings in the South of England .The thing is the site is not at Torksey, not a million miles away. but that's for me to know.

the old arabic dirham i think i may have a couple of them

i'd love to have been there i bet your detectors paid for itself over and over!

what is arabic dirham? must be viking pottery

Hammered silver coins Shaun. From places like Iraq, the Vikings were trading slaves with them for silver.

oh nice!!!! why only fragments, smashed up by the plough?

was it a hoard?

At that time the vikings didn't use coins, silver was just used as bullion. So coins were simply used by weight and broke up. all of the framents I found were very roughly broke up in to quarters.

have you been back since? another stupid question

 

[woody50]

So would a sword always break in the same place if hit by the plough, I once found part of the handle of a Viking sword, but that's a different story.

No idea really, a sword was just the first thing that popped into my mind as something iron and long. We do find objects that have been bent, some maybe on purpose, but I would imagine the most bent by a plow? I would think that something then would break if the iron (or other material) became brittle and porous after years in the ground, and break at the objects thinnest or weakest point.

 

[robfinds]

This is a picture of the thingy besides a complete pastry jigger I found a while back. Although only a small jigger, see how robust the metal had to be to support the spigot to fit the cutting wheel. The metal at the bottom of the thingy is very flimsy in comparison. And if it's not complete you can only guess it would have tapered down even more.
HH Robert.

Yes I can see that, but your jigger seems fat compared to others I have seen. I guess it would depend upon what you are cutting. Pastry is pretty soft and does not have to be pressed down hard.

Something else then. Have you ever though about a key? Does not have to be a normal key type, but one with a simple head on it.
On the handle side, on the ends I think the design is there only for decoration, that they don't have any function.
Hmm... maybe if we keep thinking enough we will find out what it is. You never know if we come back to a pipe tamper...
You think the end is not broken, it sure seems unregular to me though... It just feels like there had to be something on the end...

Correct pastry is soft, so why do finds like this always seem to be broken on one end. The end were the wheel should be if there pastry jiggers , heavy handed bakers ?.

Thats a good question for sure. I don't really know. Only I would think the longer a object is the more chance it has to get caught by a plow, and if its sitting at that moment too fast in the dirt it will break I guess. For instance I don't think you could ever find a sword in a plowed field, if it would get caught up by a deep plow it would surely break (I think)...

So would a sword always break in the same place if hit by the plough, I once found part of the handle of a Viking sword, but thats a different story.

do you still have it Rob, or a pic?

i'd like to see it!

not doubting you for a moment, it just sounds like i am

Hello Shaun, I sold it to the Scunthorpe museum, but iv'e got a written description and a nice drawing that they did for me. I will find it and post it . A while back I went to the museum in Dublin and saw the exact same handle decoration on a Viking sword in their collection.

viking stuff must be a buzz to find!

was it a large piece (easily recognizable)?

Far from it Shaun, to me it looked like a bit of gilded medieval metalwork. Not very big at all, in the 90s we stumbled on a site where in 873 AD according to the Anglo Saxon Chronicles "the force went into Northumbria ,and took winter quarters at Torksey in Lindsey; then the Mercians made peace with them". The force were at least two Viking armies lead by such as Ivan the boneless. Our finds proved that the force comprised of Danish and Swedish Vikings. I personaly found on that site the largest amount of single Arabic dirham fragments found in England. Also many Saxon pennies some stuck together, these were paid as tribute to the Vikings in the South of England .The thing is the site is not at Torksey, not a million miles away. but that's for me to know.

the old arabic dirham i think i may have a couple of them

i'd love to have been there i bet your detectors paid for itself over and over!

what is arabic dirham? must be viking pottery

Hammered silver coins Shaun. From places like Iraq, the Vikings were trading slaves with them for silver.

oh nice!!!! why only fragments, smashed up by the plough?

was it a hoard?

At that time the vikings didn't use coins, silver was just used as bullion. So coins were simply used by weight and broke up. all of the framents I found were very roughly broke up in to quarters.

have you been back since? another stupid question

it got lived on !. here's the drawing and write uo on the viking sword decoration.

 

[IronSpike]

WOW

Excellent find and great ID on the relic