potpourri for ID

[tesorobandit]

Here are some items from 2012 that I couldn't quite ID. Any ventures to clear the mysteries.
Thanks.
Bandito

 

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[nsdq]

i think that there is a Franklin half there

 

[tesorobandit]

i think that there is a Franklin half there

Yeah, dumb me, that was just to prop the items

 

[tennessee digger]

The piece on the upper left is the handle with key hole from an old piece of furniture. The 3 brass pieces around the half dollar look to be drawer pulls also off of a piece of furniture (cabinet, desk, ect). Not sure about the buckles but the one on the right looks to be very old. Tennessee digger

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

The object on the left is a keyhole escutcheon, probably from a furniture drawer, but perhaps from a small chest or jewelry-box, etc. That style was popular in the 1800s, but could be a bit later.

The object at 10 o'clock on the half-dollar is a drawer pull from a small drawer, like a desktop drawer. The object at 2 o'clock appears to also be a drawer-pull. They are difficult to date accurately, but yours are probably from the 1800s. The object at 6 o'clock is something I've seen before, but can't recall exactly what it is. Note that it has a remnant of a rotted wooden shaft (or perhaps iron) in its base. Thus it would seem to be an "end-cap" of some sort. There are many variations of end-caps.

If I recall correctly, the objct at lower right in the photo is called a "knee buckle" (from a strap which tightened a man's pantaloons at the knee). It is from the Colonial era (1600s-1700s).

The other object is a generic strap-buckle -- and thus is very difficult to date accurately. That being said... I've dug hundreds of strap-buckles from 1700s-1800s sites here in Virginia, but none of those had the exact shape yours has, so to me it has a "modern-era" (1900s) look to it.

Edit: Tennessee Digger and I were typing at the same time -- I didn't see his reply until I'd finished typing mine. Looks like we are pretty much in agreement about the ID of the objects.

 

[tesorobandit]

Thanks All!
I know the drawer pulls, just not to what they were attached.
I guess
all solved
Bandido

 

[Silver Searcher]

The buckle on the bottom right, looks to have a raised centre bar, if so it a double looped harness buckle, these do date from the 1600's but yours looks to be iron, this would make it later.

SS

 

[tesorobandit]

the buckle is brass, the stem was iron.

 

[Silver Searcher]

the buckle is brass, the stem was iron.

I take it you mean the tongue part of the Buckle, any iron part would make it a later Harness Buckle.

SS

 

[steelheadwill]

I found the larger half of a broken buckle similar to yours,
mine matches this UKFD example almost exactly, yours looks pretty close,
your raised center bar is the key issue I believe.
I defer to those more who are more knowledgeable
UK Finds Database - - - UKDFD
Nice batch of finds! Congrats

 

[tesorobandit]

I found the larger half of a broken buckle similar to yours,
mine matches this UKFD example almost exactly, yours looks pretty close,
your raised center bar is the key issue I believe.
I defer to those more who are more knowledgeable
UK Finds Database - - - UKDFD
Nice batch of finds! Congrats View attachment 721036View attachment 721037

Thanks!!
Through your keywords i found a good site for buckles as well.
buckles

the raised center bar will keep me searching
Bandido

 

[steelheadwill]

I see another example of the 'plain double loop sub-rectangular buckle with trilobate sides and chamfered corners missing pin' on Your Colchester link,
they describe it as 'Post Medieval'
very broad date range, iron remains on the crossbar.

Here's another good buckle site, history and line drawings, it makes for fast general dating : C J's Metal Detecting Pages

 

[tesorobandit]

yes, I did see that buckle. The pin however was an iron pin insert, which , I think goes against an earlier statement concerning manufacturing date.. But the raised center is more important in discovering general purpose and date, I think. One might could get a degree in research of all this.
Thanks TB

I see another example of the 'plain double loop sub-rectangular buckle with trilobate sides and chamfered corners missing pin' on Your Colchester link,
they describe it as 'Post Medieval'
very broad date range, iron remains on the crossbar.
View attachment 721347
Here's another good buckle site, history and line drawings, it makes for fast general dating : C J's Metal Detecting Pages