Prospector Shot on his own land - trying to mow!

[Limitool]

My buddy and I have been there.... The owners (legal owners / victim) OWN a road which gives access to other properties above them. "They" (other owners) have easement rights because no other access is available without this road. I personally was questioned while walking up this road with my grandson and my MD awhile back while visiting this summer. A vehicle approached while driving down the ridge. After stopping his truck he wanted to know what the hell we were doing...? I said "It's obvious we're going metal detecting" and we both keep walking. That was NOT a good answer as we walked away.... He yelled back at me and wanted to know who told me it was "OK"? I said the owners and keep walking....

You'd have to have been there to understand.

I can't understand why law enforcement didn't swave his hands, get a search warrant and spend the night there LOOKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Him being a felon with a lengthy record especially. If they didn't I hope it wasn't for all the wrong reasons.

When you folks get back here (TN.) I'll help ALL I CAN.... You got a home here.

Call again and keep in contact.... Brad

 

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[jeff of pa]

The reason this may be so slow is because the shooter is already under investigation by DEA, ATF, etc. Lots of times they try to get as much evidence against the person as possible. It is a lot easier to get a conviction if you have dozens of charges against a criminal. It also allows the government ease in seizing the property. If the government seizes the property and you have a judgement against the property owner, you may very well be awarded the property. Your best bet is to get an attorney to represent you.

yes the way some law enforcement thinks.
having an excuse to steal someones property , selling it and making booze party money,
may be more important then someones life

maybe they are under cover, selling drugs to school children for them
too much cash coming in to bite the hand that feeds it.

I suppose anything is possible these days.

 

[Limitool]

If I lived close I know what I'd be doing.... and it wouldn't be on T-net. I'll end it right here.......

 

[Floristweb]

The reason this may be so slow is because the shooter is already under investigation by DEA, ATF, etc. Lots of times they try to get as much evidence against the person as possible. It is a lot easier to get a conviction if you have dozens of charges against a criminal. It also allows the government ease in seizing the property. If the government seizes the property and you have a judgement against the property owner, you may very well be awarded the property. Your best bet is to get an attorney to represent you.

This could be, but once that Thug shot an elderly man on his mower! That THUG! should have been taken to the mat by law enforcement! If any agency is complacent in murder or attempted murder they have become as bad as the low life's they are supposed to protect us from! Those who do such things should be ashamed, and appropriately repremanded... The first duties of law enforcment is to protect people, and uphold the law, This is above the wanting to get more notches on your badge, or sick desire to get more charges to look good on a resume...This is a multiple felon!!! Attemted murder should have taken him off the streets! My 2 cents worth!

 

[pepperj]

There's always a reason for things going the way they do and in time things will come to light and folks will justify their actions(or lack of). There is also the common thread no matter where one lives is the fact that if you have something in this world the LE will knock on your door a little quicker and lay the charge a little faster as you have the money to defend yourself. If the perp has nothing and by charging him he gets a public defender, free lodgings, food, and it doesn't bother him one bit. I have met my share of the ones that just don't care, it doesn't matter what the law says because they can justify their own reasoning easily.
Having a right of way through your property is just a headache from the start, it gives everyone the right of way, the good respect your rights, and the bad just go through and it's their right. When you give the bad a little knowledge it becomes dangerous as they now know the law, and in this case it seems that they have nothing to loose, the ol' boys club is at work, you're an outsider and you're basically trespassing on your own property because in their minds you don't belong. What ever the outcome of this mess is, the truth is you're going to end up being the bad ones here, hated, and for no reason other than you bought a piece of pie and the local yokels won't let you enjoy eating that piece in peace. "Ah Johnny is a good boy, it's them new folks that got him all riled up over the property thing, it isn't right to drive a man mad like that, poor ol' Johnny"
Living in the same sh** guns, right a ways, threats, police, statements, losers, set ups, letters, trespassing, cops taking a easy hand on the poor losers-seriously I feel your pain that you're going through. Just keep pushing high up the ladder of command as there is a set of ears that'll listen. Good luck and be safe.

 

[jeff of pa]

is there a chance there is something on your property
they can't get at because you are there right now ?

They could be crapping Bricks right now , just wondering Is it there yet,
thinking to themseves, did you find it, If you mow the grass there you might find it
(trap door, small Garden )
just thinking outside the box again.

May be time for an armed treasure Hunt of your own Property
or at least a look when they are away.

 

[jeff of pa]

is there also the possibility he was shooting at a Varmint & too drunk to aim
or even realize how close your husband was

 

[cw0909]

is there also the possibility he was shooting at a Varmint & too drunk to aim
or even realize how close your husband was

i thought about that too, maybe he would/did use that as an excuse
but there are still laws about firing a firearm on your land when others
are in a close proximity and could be harmed, and then there are laws
about firing a firearm drunk. maybe the OP should look up firearm laws
for there
im just hoping the investigation is slow because DA,Judges are slow, its
hard to understand though a drunk known felon with a gun and firing and
shooting someone, and no immediate arrest is hard to wrap my head around

 

[jeff of pa]

i thought about that too, maybe he would/did use that as an excuse
but there are still laws about firing a firearm on your land when others
are in a close proximity and could be harmed, and then there are laws
about firing a firearm drunk. maybe the OP should look up firearm laws
for there
im just hoping the investigation is slow because DA,Judges are slow, its
hard to understand though a drunk known felon with a gun and firing and
shooting someone, and no immediate arrest is hard to wrap my head around

Yea I just started thinking She Pointed & he fired, could have been almost anything.
But your right of course.
If your going to handle a loaded gun, Your Responsible for what happens

 

[Floristweb]

is there a chance there is something on your property
they can't get at because you are there right now ?

They could be crapping Bricks right now , just wondering Is it there yet,
thinking to themseves, did you find it, If you mow the grass there you might find it
(trap door, small Garden )
just thinking outside the box again.

May be time for an armed treasure Hunt of your own Property
or at least a look when they are away.

Spoken like a true treasure hunter...;-) LOL... Huntsman53, what do you think?

 

[boogeyman]

That is crazy. If it had been me, the perp would be in a body bag by now.
As far as I am concerned, if someone shoots at me, unprovoked, on my own property, I will respond in the same manner until the threat is neutralized. This is why I carry ALL THE TIME - even in my own yard day or night.
You don't know what kind of nut jobs are loose out there. My good friend here is a Magistrate and has told me some stories that would stand the hair up on your head. Other stories make you laugh for a good 30 minutes.

Weapon comes out of the leather, I'm "In fear for my life" that's it! Nothing more to say...........

 

[Floristweb]

is there also the possibility he was shooting at a Varmint & too drunk to aim
or even realize how close your husband was

NOT possible. An old man on a lawn mower, multiple shots including hitting the mower before him... Unless a varmit is what you call an innocent elderly property owner on a riding mower, I can't see that working as a defense .... Thanks, Jeff in PA that made me laugh, and I needed a laugh...

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

FloristWeb - much as I hate to admit it in this case I would retain an attorney. If the sheriff isn't helping - go for the throat with lawyers. Sue the bejezus out of him. When the thug gets the hospital and physical therapy bills he may realize there are consequences for being a criminal beyond jail time. A restraining order sounds like a good idea as well.

 

[CA Gold Hunter]

Probly end up with a bigger property to prospect when the lawyers are through with them.

 

[cw0909]

FloristWeb i looked at the firearms laws some, this site says check for updates to
the laws as they change, anyway i still dont understand why the guy was not arrested

South Carolina concealed handgun permits shall not be recognized in the following places:

• Private property when the property owner prohibits the carrying of firearms;

§ 23-31-510. Regulation of ownership, transfer, or possession of firearm or ammunition; discharge on landowner's own property.
No governing body of any county, municipality, or other political subdivision in the State may enact or promulgate any regulation or ordinance that regulates or attempts to regulate:
(2) a landowner discharging a firearm on the landowner's property to protect the landowner's family, employees, the general public, or the landowner's property from animals that the landowner reasonably believes pose a direct threat or danger to the landowner's property, people on the landowner's property, or the general public. For purposes of this item, the landowner's property must be a parcel of land comprised of at least twenty-five contiguous acres. Any ordinance regulating the discharge of firearms that does not specifically provide for an exclusion pursuant to this item is unenforceable as it pertains to an incident described in this item; otherwise, the ordinance is enforceable.

It is illegal in South Carolina to:

• Discharge a firearm at any building or residence, aircraft, vehicle, or watercraft occupied other persons.
• South Carolina Gun Laws | Shooting.ORG

 

[Floristweb]

Anyone on here know how I might contact the OATH KEEPERS? Do you think they would help me secure my property so that I can do needed maintinance ( I need to mow, pick up trash, etc on my property) without being murdered? (I wish I could hike, rockhound, prospect, MD, play in the water, etc) but, I need protection to maintain what I have worked so hard to try to turn from a horrible dump. The Sheriff's office questioned me as to why I would be on "MY" property... THIS IS NUTS!!! Just NUTS!

 

[Nitric]

Anyone on here know how I might contact the OATH KEEPERS? Do you think they would help me secure my property so that I can do needed maintinance ( I need to mow, pick up trash, etc on my property) without being murdered? (I wish I could hike, rockhound, prospect, MD, play in the water, etc) but, I need protection to maintain what I have worked so hard to try to turn from a horrible dump. The Sheriff's office questioned me as to why I would be on "MY" property... THIS IS NUTS!!! Just NUTS!

I just did a real quick search...Not sure if it will help you or not?
South Carolina | Oath Keepers

 

[Oregon Viking]

South Carolina | Oath Keepers

 

[cw0909]

these folks?
About | Oath Keepers

 

[MichiganMan]

My husband was seeing if he could mow some grass bebind our house Limitool, and huntsman53 .... snip

You have evidence that your husband was shot. The bullet in his leg. He stated that he heard a woman's voice directing the alleged shooter. That is it for that situation. Nobody ever said that they actually saw someone shoot him. That this man living behind you did it was only inferred because of past confrontations. You don't have the weapon for a ballistics match, no Gun Shot Residue tests were done. Basically the police that were initially handling the case are incompetent or otherwise hampered because of lack of evidence. Any competent lawyer could show that it just as easily could have been a stray bullet from a squirrel hunter.
You, know what happened. But you have to be able to prove it in a court of law. The police need evidence so they can present it to the prosecutor so a judge can sign an indictment for attempted murder.