Purchased a Frame with NA artifacts and will need lots of help with ID's

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I purchased a frame two weekends ago at a local auction that had about 45 pieces in it.
I'm hoping to post them here, one by one, to get some help with age, location type, etc.

As I've mentioned before I'm less than a novice but intrigued by NA artifacts and hope some of these items are as nice as they appear to these tired wide eyed peepers.
I've only got time for one or two images at the moment and have to run to an appointment.

Thanks in advance for any insight and hope it doesn't disappoint.

Edit: Added numbers to the items for reference.
 

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Looks like a nice diverse frame, nice bone, .good buy Pete, lookin forward to closeups.
 

Thanks TDog and HP for taking a look.
Even I can tell some of the points are pretty low quality so they might not be of much interest to most experienced collectors and I don't want to bore you to tears. But I'm hoping you guys will bear with me.
I really picked it up for the tools and what I think are necklace pieces.

I might as well start with #1. (Please let me know if I'm uploading too many images or if you need different areas.)
Number1-SideA-Scale1.webp Number1-SideB-Scale2.webp

Number1-SideB-StarburstCoralClose2.webp Number1-SideA-Close-WorkedLines2.webp
Number1-SideA-Close-StarburstCoral1VNice.webp Number1-SideA-Close-Multicolor1.webp

Under magnification, it looks like star bursts all over the piece and I'm thinking it might be fossilized coral.
If it is coral, is east coast, west coast, or keys in Florida the most likely local for it?
Are these common?

Thanks for any help or comments.
 

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I want to start with 44 also. WOW. That would leave a mark. All that bone stuff. It looks treated or preserved well but you will get advice.
Those close up lithic pics are really good too.
 

Is that (44) a sloth claw?
Thanks Soill, but I really haven't looked at any of these very closely. I figured I would look closer as I imaged them.

To your question, I suppose it could be a sloth. I was thinking possibly a bear claw but now that you mention it a bear would be more hooked.
Time for "Hello Google'.
 

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I want to start with 44 also. WOW. That would leave a mark. All that bone stuff. It looks treated or preserved well but you will get advice.
Those close up lithic pics are really good too.

Thanks Fat. I'm use to taking images of coins and have a magnifier attachment for my phone for closeups.
Guess I'll do 44 next.
 

I think it’s a deers antler tine but that is the stuff much like those 3 pins or?, it’s that all but gone and probably truthfully gone as far as finding anything more. IMO, the ways the rules about finding in Florida (everyplace)have made it about impossible to save anymore of that artifact from extinction.

I have bear claws if you need some reference.

1 is a great starting place also
 

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Number 44-
Some type of claw, horn or antler?
Number44-Claw-ProfileAScale-1.webp Number44-Claw-ProfileAScale-3.webp
Number44-Claw-ProfileA-4.webp Number44-Claw-ProfileB-2.webp



Number44-Claw-Base-3-CutMarksVNice2.webp Number44-Claw-Tip-1.webp
Number44-Claw-Base-Profile1VNice.webp Number44-Claw-Base-4-CutMarksCloseAngledVNice.webp
Number44-Claw-Base-ProfileClose2-VNice.webp Number44-Claw-Base-ProfileClose3-VNice.webp
Number44-Claw-Base-Recess1.webp Number44-Claw-TopSide-2.webp
 

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I think it’s a deers antler tine but that is the stuff much like those 3 pins or?, it’s that all but gone and probably truthfully gone as far as finding anything more. IMO, the ways the rules about finding in Florida (everyplace)have made it about impossible to save anymore of that artifact from extinction.

I have bear claws if you need some reference.

1 is a great starting place also

Thanks again Fat. The more I looked online and took images the more I agree with you that it's most likely antler. I was thrown off because I was looking for the knob at the base of antlers and forgot about the tines.
 

On the first point, it looks to be made of fossilized coral, so would be fairly "local" to Florida.
 

Nice frame and they all look authentic. Definitely Florida material, Starburst Coral. Pretty rough shape so an exact ID is tough. I'll just say it's a nice stemmed point. Bone pins are great, & I'll agree with the claw being an antler. JMHO. Nice you got the frame and shared with us.
 

On the first point, it looks to be made of fossilized coral, so would be fairly "local" to Florida.

Thanks Smokey.

Nice frame and they all look authentic. Definitely Florida material, Starburst Coral. Pretty rough shape so an exact ID is tough. I'll just say it's a nice stemmed point. Bone pins are great, & I'll agree with the claw being an antler. JMHO. Nice you got the frame and shared with us.
Thanks Newnan Man.
The "Starburst" look to it was spellbinding when I first looked with the loop. That must have been tough to work into a point.

Did you see both frames that were for sale locally at the auction?
Here's an image of the other one. Any idea which item(s) made this one sell for $750? The round coidal with holes?
LostAuctionFrameNAPoints2021-750-USD2.webp

For Coral, probably Tampa (gulf side) and surrounding counties. Maybe North and East of there as well.

Thanks Joshuaream.
I suspected the west coast near Tampa because of the activity there. But I had nothing to relate to other than some Youtube videos showing guys collecting fossilized coral pieces from some rivers in NW Florida. Any idea what the darker blue/green flecks are, in the last image from Point #1?
 

16 - Newnan

6, 12, 21 - Putnam

27 - Citrus or Hernando

10, 35, 36 - Kirk / Palmer / Bolen

23 - Pinellas

19, 28 - Drills

40, 41, 42 - Bone pins

38, 39, 43 - Antler drifts (43 may be a pendant)

44 - Whitetail deer antler (spike - I think I see some of the burr / scull still present)

45 - Stamped pottery (rim sherd)
 

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Woo hoo Tdog, thanks. That puts a nice start on the IDs.:icon_thumright:
 

Sorry about the delay in following up with more images of points. (And please give me some guidance if posting individual items is preferred or groups of them are best. Or maybe groups of what I think may be from the same culture?)

Again, please fill me in on the culture you think it might be from as well as the types of material used. I'm not familiar with the actual names used. Thanks.

Point #2 (from the initial post)-
Number2PofileA-1.webp Number2PofileB-1.webp Number2PofileA-3WScale.webp
Number2PofileB-RightBaseNotch.webp Number2Tip-Close2.webp Number2PofileA-Base1.webp

Point #3 (from the initial post)-
Number3PofileA-3.webp Number3PofileB-1.webp Number3PofileB-3-WScale.webp
Number3BaseA-1.webp Number3Bottom-1.webp Number3Point-1.webp
Number3Edge-1.webp Number3PofileA-5RedSpot-Larger.webp

Point #4 (from the initial post)-
Number4PofileA-3.webp Number4PofileB-2.webp Number4PofileB-3WScale.webp
Number4Bottom-2.webp Number4Tip-1.webp Number4Edge-2VNice.webp

Please let me know if I'm overdoing it with images. I tend to get carried away.

And thanks again to anyone and everyone with comments or info.
 

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