RANT - JUST A SMALL RANT!

[Happa54]

IMO.... for whatever was going on in that particular hole, the Nox reported loud & clear, a piece of metal under its coil and the CTX didn't. The Nox was doing its job. I would question the efficiency of the CTX.

 

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[Geobound]

IMO.... for whatever was going on in that particular hole, the Nox reported loud & clear, a piece of metal under its coil and the CTX didn't. The Nox was doing its job. I would question the efficiency of the CTX.

I think that's what the OP's point was. The Nox rang out like a great find, and the CTX told you it was crap.

Why would you question the CTX's efficiency when it did its job?

 

[treasureguy56]

I have to agree with vferrari ,
keep in mind that the Equinox is relatively new with new combinations of existing technologies and a couple new one's to boot . This machine nuance's will take time to understand for all of us . I remember when the CZ5 was new to me many many years ago , it took awhile , but eventually after putting some time into learning what the machine was telling me , I found that it was a good machine and it served me well . The Equinox is no different , after being use to other machines regardless of the brands and names , it will take time to learn the equinoxe's language for all of us - saying that the Equinox is garbage is just a false statement by someone who happens to love the machine their use to .

 

[sgoss66]

Geobound -- I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, BOTH did their job, in that video. Either one would have told me "somewhat iffy target, more likely not a nickel or ring, but possibly worth digging depending upon the site being hunted, and whether I was in the mood to reach for somewhat iffy nickel-type signals..."

Steve

 

[vferrari]

I think that's what the OP's point was. The Nox rang out like a great find, and the CTX told you it was crap.

Why would you question the CTX's efficiency when it did its job?

Anyone moderately familiar with the Equinox would not consider that “[ringing] out like a great find”. The TID was unstable, audio distorted (admittedly hard to hear on the video) and depth indicated shallow target all add up to probable trash. Gold jewelry at that depth would ring up with a solid ID and a nickel would also be solid 13. That was not a “dig me” Equinox signal, sorry.

In other words, that was a very low probability keeper target signal to the experienced Equinox user just as the non-silent audio and variable visual ID signal the CTX provided would be interpreted as probable trash to the experienced CTX user.

 

[Hawks88]

I love my Equinox and I do dig everything all the time. If it’s metal I’m diggin.

 

[HighVDI]

Anyone moderately familiar with the Equinox would not consider that “[ringing] out like a great find”. The TID was unstable, audio distorted (admittedly hard to hear on the video) and depth indicated shallow target all add up to probable trash. Gold jewelry at that depth would ring up with a solid ID and a nickel would also be solid 13. That was not a “dig me” Equinox signal, sorry.

In other words, that was a very low probability keeper target signal to the experienced Equinox user just as the non-silent audio and variable visual ID signal the CTX provided would be interpreted as probable trash to the experienced CTX user.

Best post on this thread, hands down.

There's guys on these forums with literally thousands of hours on the CTX 3030 and they buy an Equinox....then put a few hours on it...and complain about target id ect.

There's no way around it. You have to log hours on ANY machine to truly know it and what it's trying to relay to you. I wouldn't hesitate to hunt behind any machine with my 800. Been doing it at the public spots for exactly 1 year and lets just say there have been lots of great items left behind!

The Equinox is on a higher level than mid range. ..it just gets looked at that way since it is priced accordingly. But....thats all JMO and experience so far.

 

[dirtlooter]

dug two signals today, both read 11. one was a junker plated ring, the other, a 10k ring. I had previously dug an 11 signal that was trash and figured that I was again digging trash, more of the first.

 

[cudamark]

I wouldn't have been jazzed about digging the signal with either machine. it would be site dependent though. At the beach, it would have been scooped. In a modern urban turf area, it would have been passed over. At an old site, it reluctantly would have been dug, knowing it was probably a junk target, but, hoping for the best. We don't know the exact settings that were used for either machine, but, with the settings I use, both machines would have given me virtually the same info on that target. The FBS system gives a little more info visually, but, in this case, I don't think it would have given me a different conclusion than the Equinox's system.

 

[ripvanb]

I'm new to the Equinox 800 so I'm still digging most targets. But for me so far 100% of the time anything jumping from 12 to 13 has been a broken ring-tab.

 

[HighVDI]

I'm new to the Equinox 800 so I'm still digging most targets. But for me so far 100% of the time anything jumping from 12 to 13 has been a broken ring-tab.

Don't rely on that screen. I've had many buffs and V's bounce from 9 to 13. I dig any deeper nickel signal that sounds consistant. Also dug a garrett carrot deep shield nickel that was bouncing around the nickel range. Just sounded good and deep.

 

[RayinAlaska]

Don't rely on that screen. I've had many buffs and V's bounce from 9 to 13. I dig any deeper nickel signal that sounds consistant. Also dug a garrett carrot deep shield nickel that was bouncing around the nickel range. Just sounded good and deep.

Years ago when I started detecting I did so with a new (then) Tecknetics 9000. This detector had a meter with a needle or pointer that moved to the possible target printed on the dial. Anyway, even back then this detector produced a bunch of different tones, the highest for aluminum and silver, and the lowest for iron-if I well remember. Anyway, I found it a lot easier to listen to the sounds than to look at the meter, and found lots of silver coins in Northern NY. The next detector was a Minelab Sovereign, and again I only listened to the sounds it made, and rarely looked at the display. I will be doing the same with the Equinox since I am used to listen for faint and iffy signals. Once I get used to the sounds, I find the display distracting.

 

[sprailroad]

It was a good enough signal for me to dig with the EQ, (even if a little iffy) thinking pull-tab, but perhaps nickel or ring?. I HAVE found nickel's as low as 11. pull tabs I've dug anywhere from say 11 to 18, depending on shape and size. It always comes down to choice as to dig or not. Site also has a lot to do with it as well. I have had some really good finds digging "iffy" signals. I've never used the CTX, but have often used it's baby brother the Safari. I did notice that when switching from Field 2 to Park 1 for instance, it is my understanding that they will operate a little different, and that one should do a noise cancel and GB for each mode, but in this video it may of be no real importance. I think the two machines can run any race pretty much neck to neck, a lot may depend on the jockey. As you all know, I have other machines, but the Equinox IS the most versatile machine I've ever owned no doubt. It would seem that for the price on the 600 & 800, you do get the most bang for the buck. There are ALOT of different makes, models and brands out there, and they are all good in their own right I'd guess. I am not beating the drum for Minelab or the EQ as the ONLY machine to use, it is simply a good fit for me.

 

[dirtlooter]

a broken ring may give a flaky reading but I would think that the tone would be the same

 

[Ammoman]

I would have dug that signal in a skinny second. looks like the ctx was discriminating out the target. You might want to modify the CTX program to include targets like the one you dug.

 

[cudamark]

a broken ring may give a flaky reading but I would think that the tone would be the same

The broken rings I've found gave a scratchy sound and the numbers were lower than what it would be if unbroken.

 

[cudamark]

dug two signals today, both read 11. one was a junker plated ring, the other, a 10k ring. I had previously dug an 11 signal that was trash and figured that I was again digging trash, more of the first.

The broken rings I've found had a scratchy sound and read lower than what they would normally read if unbroken.

 

[HighVDI]

All metal mode will often give grunts on those tabs. You can also play around with different frequencies as a checker too.

 

[Minelab Matt]

Went to a local beach yesterday.

Jackson's Bay, Barry (Wales, UK)

Dug approx 25 holes...3 bits of lead, rest were ring pulls and bottle caps..ARGGH!!

Matt

 

[HighVDI]

I'm confused.