Really old socket

[Dougie Webb]

I've already found several primitive/hand-made tools and nails near the site of an old mill in our neighborhood. Pulled this one out yesterday - looked like a rock. Tumbled it overnight and then electrolysis all day. I appear to have a hand-made (?) 1/2 socket with a 1/2 drive. I can't make out any maker's mark. Not sure if that's because it just that corroded or because it's just that primitive. Anyway, this made my day! Thanks for looking!

After tumbling and before electrolysis:



After electrolysis:

 

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[xaos]

Its beat to hell, but a 12 point socket is not that old in the grand scheme of things...

12 points were not patented until 1966 by SnapOn

6 point were the standard...

 

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[Dougie Webb]

12 points were not patented until 1966 by SnapOn

Actually, it appears that Williams was producing 12-point sockets as early as 1929. I may not know a whole lot, but I do my research before I start blindly posting things on here.

Please do me the courtesy of doing the same before you make another attempt at denigrating me.

 

[xaos]

The comment that SnapOn patented a 12 point socket in 1966 is valid...look it up.

 

[Mud Hut]

Socket to me! Not everyday you see somebody dig a socket!

 

[Dougie Webb]

Socket to me! Not everyday you see somebody dig a socket!

for the win!

 

[pa plateau hiker]

Google...Snap On 12 point socket patent...1933.

 

[Tony in SC]

Info. Just because a patent was issued on a given date does not mean that someone else was manufacturing something similar years before.

 

[pa plateau hiker]

Info. Just because a patent was issued on a given date does not mean that someone else was manufacturing something similar years before.

True, that little bit of info is for xaos.

 

[Doubter in MD]

I don't know whether the socket was plated or not. It's too roached. But nowadays unplated sockets are generally made for use with pneumatic of electric impact tools.

 

[DizzyDigger]

Actually, it appears that Williams was producing 12-point sockets as early as 1929. I may not know a whole lot, but I do my research before I start blindly posting things on here.
Please do me the courtesy of doing the same before you make another attempt at denigrating me.

Nobody insulted your research. He was not correct, but in no way
was he trying to denigrate you.

My research shows this:

Patent number: 1,424,069

Date: Jul. 25, 1922
Tool: Wrench
Patent applied for by: Fred W. Blackmar, Providence, RI

Description: The patent describes a 12-point socket attached to a handle that extends
at a 45 degree angle from the plane of the socket. Catalog listings for Blue-Point Boxocket
(r) wrenches and contemporary 12-point sockets produced by Snap-On (r) tools cite this patent.
Alloy Artifacts notes J. H. Williams also licensed the patent for early 1930s "DUOHEX" double box
end wrenches.

 

[Dougie Webb]

Info. Just because a patent was issued on a given date does not mean that someone else was manufacturing something similar years before.

True, that little bit of info is for xaos.

Gentlemen, thank you both.

 

[Dougie Webb]

My research shows this:

Patent number: 1,424,069

Date: Jul. 25, 1922
T

Yeah, I just saw that one too - pretty amazing! Thanks!

 

[ecmo]

In your first photo I seen the socket was knurled toward the top. I'm not home right now to check out my hodgepodge assortment of sockets to verify this but if I remember correctly that's a Williams socked. Also unlike most other makers they had a somewhat tapered body and the walls were usually a bit thinner than other brands tended to be.

Don

 

[Dougie Webb]

In your first photo I seen the socket was knurled toward the top. I'm not home right now to check out my hodgepodge assortment of sockets to verify this but if I remember correctly that's a Williams socked. Also unlike most other makers they had a somewhat tapered body and the walls were usually a bit thinner than other brands tended to be.

Don

Thanks Don! Tony in SC said the same thing. And I did notice that the walls seemed particularly thin....