Starbucks asks U.S. customers to leave guns at home

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I carry everywhere I legally can according to my concealed carry permit including Starbucks............. I am armed 95% of the time when I leave home..................
 

I think the article points out the reason.. Very crazy people who are militant about making sure they can control you.

We often see that anti gun people are unstable, unhappy and viscous at times.
From the article;

"We've seen the 'open carry' debate become increasingly uncivil and, in some cases, even threatening," Schultz wrote, noting that "some anti-gun activists have also played a role in ratcheting up the rhetoric and friction," at times soliciting and confronting employees and patrons."
 

I won't be stopping at Starbucks ever again...

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I won't be stopping at Starbucks ever again...

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Blaine,

That is a good way to make a statement - with your wallet.

Same idea behind how I don't shop at Chikfilet, Papa Johns, or Walmart.
 

I'm pro gun but I don't think open carry is something I wouldn't do even if I could. It lets the bad guy know that I'm their threat so they take me out first. I don't care to spend 5 times what the price of coffee should be so I don't go to Starbucks in the first place but, if someone was to enter their store legally carrying a concealed weapon, they wouldn't know it. The only way they would know is if a bad guy came in and the legal carry person had to handle the situation.
 

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I'm pro gun but I don't think open carry is something I would do even if I could. It lets the bad guy know that I'm their threat so they take me out first. I don't care to spend 5 times what the price of coffee should be so I don't go to Starbucks in the first place but, if someone was to enter their store legally carrying a concealed weapon, they wouldn't know it. The only way they would know is if a bad guy came in and the legal carry person had to handle the situation.

Packer thing is your not only one open carrying, there are dozens of others around you which deters crime....

I have personally talked to about a dozen policemen about open carry vs concealed, they prefer open carry as it deters crime, their words not mine.



Open Carry Deters Crime
By Larry Pratt | April 25, 2012

Open carry is legal in 28 states without restriction. In another 13 states, a license is required. As ABC entitled a recent report, "Open carry is on the rise."

Shane Belanger is the head of the Maine Open Carry Association. He organized a rally where attendees were carrying openly. He told ABC News that the purpose of the public display was to accustom people to seeing guns and realize that they are not threatening.


As San Bernardino County (Calif.) Sheriff's Sargent, Dave Phelps said, "Gang members aren't known to open carry." For people living in jurisdictions where concealed carry is not legal, but open carry is, the latter is their only option.

Other reasons for open carry include providing a visible deterrent to crime and providing more comfort and quicker access than concealed carry. A 1985 Department of Justice survey of incarcerated felons reported that 57 percent of the felons polled agreed that "criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police."

Researcher Gary Kleck found that 92 percent of criminal attacks are deterred when a gun is merely shown (or, rarely, a warning shot fired). By inference, this means that open carry would have the effect of deterring crime in the same way that a thief might choose another restaurant when he sees police eating at his intended target.

Also, larger handguns with more potent ammunition are easier to carry openly.

I personally have taken part in public awareness campaigns. On one occasion I was contacted by a Gun Owners of America member, Ray Seidel, who lives in Ruidoso, N.M. The mayor of the village had proclaimed that guns be banned everywhere within its boundaries.

A hearing was held in Ruidoso last fall with an overflow attendance. In defiance of the mayor, but consistent with the state's explicit constitutional protection of the right to open carry, many of us testifying were openly carrying. The mayor's proposal was shot down, so to speak.

Awareness of an armed citizenry has been shown to lower crime. In 1982, Atlanta suburb Kennesaw required all households to have a gun. The residential burglary rate subsequently dropped 89 percent in Kennesaw, compared to the modest 10.4 percent drop in Georgia as a whole.

Ten years later the residential burglary rate in Kennesaw was still 72 percent lower than when the ordinance was passed.

No wonder open carry is on the march.

http://mobile.usnews.com/opinion/debate-club/articles/2012/04/25/open-carry-deters-crime

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Starbucks Says Guns Unwelcome, Though Not Banned.


Schultz hopes people will honor the request not to bring in guns but says the company will nevertheless serve those who do.
"We will not ask you to leave," he said.


As for the "Starbucks Appreciation Days" being staged by gun rights advocates, it stresses: "To be clear: we do not want these events in our stores."
But the letter notes that Starbucks is standing by its position that the matter should ultimately be left to lawmakers. Schultz also said he doesn't want to put workers in the position of having to confront armed customers by banning guns.
The AP was provided a picture of a memo to Starbucks employees on Tuesday. Partners are instructed not to confront customers or ask them to leave solely for carrying a weapon.


Starbucks Says Guns Unwelcome, Though Not Banned - ABC News
 

Sounds like they just want to sell coffee and not get involved in all of the gun control crap. That's a good stand in my book if you're a business person.
 

You either support the Constitution or you don't, there is no middle ground.

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Sounds like they just want to sell coffee and not get involved in all of the gun control crap. That's a good stand in my book if you're a business person.

Packer, that is my thought exactly.

As a business, it is in their best interest to stay out of politics (at least in the public eye). You dont want to alienate any of your customers.

IMO, this move is Starbucks saying "Please leave us out of this" to both sides. I respect them for that.
 

Packer, that is my thought exactly.

As a business, it is in their best interest to stay out of politics (at least in the public eye). You dont want to alienate any of your customers.

IMO, this move is Starbucks saying "Please leave us out of this" to both sides. I respect them for that.

Wish i had taken a picture, a business I went to for my job 80 miles away had a sign on their front door that said " if you voted for obama your business is not wanted".....




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Packer, that is my thought exactly.

As a business, it is in their best interest to stay out of politics (at least in the public eye). You dont want to alienate any of your customers.

IMO, this move is Starbucks saying "Please leave us out of this" to both sides. I respect them for that.

They could have just remained quiet instead of making a statement...

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Well, they seem to have no problem with their Kennasaw stores, other than the service. :tongue3:

I doubt I will ever have a starbucks coffee. I'm just not one for the "designer labels", "keeping up with the joneses", standing in lines, for products and gadgets, or paying $6 bucks, for a .50 cent cup o joe. :hello:
Some folks loyalties, I just do not understand. :icon_scratch:
 

Kudos to Starbucks!!!!!! Think I'll skip Chick Fil A and eat there more often! The mocha latte's are to die for! (Not literally) no pun intended.
 

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I wonder about people who need a weapons to drink coffee...
or people who pay 5 bucks a shot for espresso.
The"weapons" are for safety and a undeniable right...


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I wonder about people who need a weapons to drink coffee...
or people who pay 5 bucks a shot for espresso.

when I buy coffee away from home it's ay a Restaurant where the cup is bottomless,
& I try to be sure they keep it full the entire time I'm there.

$5.00 for a Coffee ?

I hope not ever in my lifetime.

it spites me to pay over $7 for a 1 lb. 12oz can
 

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