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mj-air23

Jr. Member
Oct 29, 2007
43
1
Jamestown, ND
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Minelab Explorer SE PRO, Tesoro Stingray II
This is what he sent me:

Coins will be shipped from

Joseph Novak
696 Meta lake Road
Eagle River WI 54501
 

PAPPYGOL

Full Member
May 15, 2008
226
7
niles ohio
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grand master hunter cx2 ,,. , fisher 1235x 1236x2, 2 coin computers, garrett freedom 3.
Northwoods Pawn Shop
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5196 W Hwy 70, Eagle River, WI 54521

(715 477-0355

i found this
 

Marchas45

Bronze Member
Mar 22, 2009
2,046
381
A Place In Heaven
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Excalibur 1000, Garrett Scorpion.
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All Treasure Hunting
mj-air23 said:
This is what he sent me:

Coins will be shipped from

Joseph Novak
696 Meta lake Road
Eagle River WI 54501

That's what I received, same address
 

PAPPYGOL

Full Member
May 15, 2008
226
7
niles ohio
Detector(s) used
grand master hunter cx2 ,,. , fisher 1235x 1236x2, 2 coin computers, garrett freedom 3.
did anyone call the pawn shop??
 

PAPPYGOL

Full Member
May 15, 2008
226
7
niles ohio
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grand master hunter cx2 ,,. , fisher 1235x 1236x2, 2 coin computers, garrett freedom 3.
maybe he works there and is stealing the coins and selling them. may have got busted
 

jgang

Newbie
Mar 31, 2011
1
0
Greetings. First post here. Looks like I'm a "Joe Novak" victim too. Has anyone learned anything recently? I sent him a USPS money order that arrived at Meta Lake, WI on Wednesday. Nothing from him. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know.

Thanks,
Jason
 

mick56

Bronze Member
Jun 2, 2007
1,335
1,129
Southern Wisconsin
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1
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ATPro
jgang said:
Greetings. First post here. Looks like I'm a "Joe Novak" victim too. Has anyone learned anything recently? I sent him a USPS money order that arrived at Meta Lake, WI on Wednesday. Nothing from him. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know.

Thanks,
Jason

I would check with the post office. I think it is fraud to accept a PO money order and not send the goods.
 

Marchas45

Bronze Member
Mar 22, 2009
2,046
381
A Place In Heaven
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Excalibur 1000, Garrett Scorpion.
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All Treasure Hunting
Just received an update from the officer in WI working on the case. He just called me to let me know that they are getting closer to nailing this bum. Your right mick56 now the Postal Fraud unit is involved and they are going after him big time. Hopefully you get your money back Jason from the postal service which I think you will if you opened a claim. Charlie

P.S. Internet fraud is a Federal Offence as is Postal.
 

underarock

Sr. Member
Mar 27, 2011
318
4
Southeast PA
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CZ-70
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Other
this is all very interesting. How much money we talking about total? That we know of that is?

Either way if it was 10 bucks or 1000 this guys gonna end up in a sweet american jail where he can get all cleaned up and maybe get an education too!

Honestly the important thing here is everyone involved can somehow get their money back.
 

Bigcypresshunter

Gold Member
Dec 15, 2004
27,000
3,338
South Florida
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70's Whites TM Amphibian, HH Pulse, Ace 250
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Beach & Shallow Water Hunting
There is so much internet fraud that the FBI only investigates cases over $100,000. In my experiences the local police are unwilling to help. I dont know about the Post Office. Chances of getting any money back are slim.
 

tmanly

Full Member
May 28, 2010
146
3
the Pawn Shop address comes back as Millers Boat and dock lift on google Earth map, The other one seems to be out in the country
 

wtwtw

Newbie
Jul 10, 2011
4
0
Clearwater, Fl
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Dfx, Beach hunter id300
Any amount of money over $300.00 at least in the state of Florida is a felony. This is not a total of multiple thefts. It means each occurance over a total of $300.00 is a felony. $299.99 or under is not a felony. If he took more than one person for over $300.00 each. Then each one would be one count of a felony
 

Bigcypresshunter

Gold Member
Dec 15, 2004
27,000
3,338
South Florida
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70's Whites TM Amphibian, HH Pulse, Ace 250
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Beach & Shallow Water Hunting
wtwtw said:
Any amount of money over $300.00 at least in the state of Florida is a felony. This is not a total of multiple thefts. It means each occurance over a total of $300.00 is a felony. $299.99 or under is not a felony. If he took more than one person for over $300.00 each. Then each one would be one count of a felony
That may be true but try to get someone to prosecute. If its out of the country you can just forget it.
 

Silver Surfer

Bronze Member
Oct 6, 2009
1,212
2
Florida- Somewhere in the middle
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MXT 300/Excal II/Surf Dual Field
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All Treasure Hunting
What is the story here? Guy post in classifieds and then??
How many people lost, and how much?
I haven't been burned but a couple times in the last decade, and ended up getting money back only due to epay and/or paypuck protection (one good thing about buying there)...
Could he possibly been hurt or died, etc.?
 

ramjet2187

Hero Member
Nov 29, 2005
926
141
North Central Tennessee
Detector(s) used
MXT
Silver Surfer said:
What is the story here? Guy post in classifieds and then??
How many people lost, and how much?
I haven't been burned but a couple times in the last decade, and ended up getting money back only due to epay and/or paypuck protection (one good thing about buying there)...
Could he possibly been hurt or died, etc.?

1. Dude was selling the same lot / various forms of the same lot of coins to several members here simultaneously.

2. Members sent funds.

3. Dude didn't send coins and stopped communication.

I "purchased" a lot of halves (if I remember correctly it was 53 X 90%) and never heard back from the seller. Paypal recovered all of my funds. I believe several other members didn't recover their funds, mainly due to sending Paypal "gift". I realize the expense of Paypal, what with all the fees, but the protection of having several hundreds of dollars recovered is worth it. YMMV.
 

Marchas45

Bronze Member
Mar 22, 2009
2,046
381
A Place In Heaven
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Excalibur 1000, Garrett Scorpion.
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All Treasure Hunting
ramjet2187 said:
Silver Surfer said:
What is the story here? Guy post in classifieds and then??
How many people lost, and how much?
I haven't been burned but a couple times in the last decade, and ended up getting money back only due to epay and/or paypuck protection (one good thing about buying there)...
Could he possibly been hurt or died, etc.?

1. Dude was selling the same lot / various forms of the same lot of coins to several members here simultaneously.

2. Members sent funds.

3. Dude didn't send coins and stopped communication.

I "purchased" a lot of halves (if I remember correctly it was 53 X 90%) and never heard back from the seller. Paypal recovered all of my funds. I believe several other members didn't recover their funds, mainly due to sending Paypal "gift". I realize the expense of Paypal, what with all the fees, but the protection of having several hundreds of dollars recovered is worth it. YMMV.

That's not quite true, actually a bunch of us received our money back even if we sent it as a gift including myself. I lost touch with the sheriff that was handling the case ( His e-mail is not in service anymore ) and they where close to nabbing him and yes they knew who the culprit was and hopefully they convicted him.
 

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