Stone Treasure Marker?

[Headhunter23]

I had this in a different forum, but thought I would try my luck here.

I was at work the other day and came upon this stone. It's of pretty good size. Wondering what all of your thoughts were on it. If it could be a treasure marker, or had another use.The land has been inhabited since the 1700's and before that by Native Americans. It probably weighs 75-100 lbs. Thanks

 

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[CanadianTrout]

Interesting pic. Notch looks manmade. So does the general shape of the rock itself. Hope others can come along with more detail.

Looks like you moved the rock from its original postition. I wouldn't have done that.....

 

[rangler]

this looks like it WAS a monument and that rock might have been the black dog!
but now that you have disassembled it - the data is lost forever, never ever pull rocks out
of a stack like this..it is criminal in my view, and the penalty is you will never know what it
might have lead to...now it only leads to disappointment for you and dismay for the rest
of the treasure hunting community.
rangler

ps but hey your screen names is head hunter and you scored the head of a black dog.
so in that case your a winner!

 

[Headhunter23]

I don't see what the big deal in moving it was. I can put it right back where it was.

 

[desertmoons]

his looks like it WAS a monument and that rock might have been the black dog!
but now that you have disassembled it - the data is lost forever, never ever pull rocks out
of a stack like this..it is criminal in my view, and the penalty is you will never know what it
might have lead to...now it only leads to disappointment for you and dismay for the rest
of the treasure hunting community.
rangler

ps but hey your screen names is head hunter and you scored the head of a black dog.
so in that case your a winner!

Well..I don't think it is as dire at that.. because I'm not sure the pile is of importance as more than a trail marker or left overs from some activity.

Anyway, newbie mistake..we all make them. Headhunter..the reason leaving them in place is important is this.. sometimes a degree line is shot off a marker in situ. If you move the marker say an inch or two and the distance is a couple hundred feet, well..you are then off where the marker wanted to lead you by yards and yards. Also, it is history..leave it for others etc.


Now, clearly this caught your eye as an unusual pile of rocks. What caught your eye about it, And welcome..

 

[Mileaway]

Rangler, For us newbies that are spending the time to read all your posts, it is important to our learning if you would please explain why the information is lost forever? Even if the rock is replaced? Thanks from all of us Freshmen at Sticks and Stones U.
M

Update: Thanks Desertmoons for the reasonings.

 

[poorfarm]

mileaway unless u put a compass
on rock to get exact dir moving it
will change deg of travel

 

[Headhunter23]

The notch is what caught my eye. I'm not even sure it is a treasure/trail marker. I walked the woods end to end in that area and am yet to see any other strange stones. As far as leaving history, it's in the middle of an area where people other than employees rarely go. And everyone I've talked to never knew it existed.
Also what if over time the stone sinks or shifts just barely, wouldn't that screw distance and measurement up as well?

 

[CanadianTrout]

Not sure what part of your country you are in HHunter, but this very well could also be native American in origin and not treasure related at all.

I'm thinking this may be a native stone tool or a boundry marker of some kind. It was found in a grouping of stones...

For instance:

 

[Headhunter23]

I am pretty keen when it comes to Native American artifacts. And I haven't seen anything like this before. Then again I have no knowledge of large stone tools or boundary markers for Native Americans. The area this stone was found gets pretty swampy in some areas. It is known that there was a Native American village near the river on this same property, and they roamed the area often. There was even a fort built to protect the settlers during the Indian wars. I've found lots of old home stone foundations. But nothing like this in those areas.
Do you think it could have been used for fishing? Like a a place to secure nets or part of an ancient fishing dam?
Thanks all

 

[CanadianTrout]

No idea but I think anything is possible. In light of your new info HHunter, I firmly believe this to be Native in origin. Use? Couldn't tell ya. :P

Any chance of getting more pics of the area? Some closer pics of the "notch rock formation" would be good. Keep an eye out for any other small clumpings of stone and watch trees (aspens mainly) for blaze marks or carvings in the bark. Seen any weirdly formed trees? Like they grew a foot or two high, bend right over sharply and then grow straigh up again type of thing?

 

[Mileaway]

As I was re-reading Old Dogs post from a while back( there was one that hit an odd note so you might want to ask him about it. The notches were the key note. Here is what I found:
M

 

[Produce Guy]

I would think about hunting the land above it.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Old Dog

 

[CanadianTrout]

Good call Mileaway. I do remember Old Dog posting pics and talking about notches. Hmmm... can't remember details though. Go searching for it or hopefully he'll show up here.

 

[rangler]

HH
notches are sometime used for confirmation and one that looks just like this are used as a rear gun sight, I know you didn't know what it was, but thats ok, the lesson was costly one, that gunsight could have been used to point something out about a league away...perhaps an alpha monument that might have led to something important, these monuments are ancient [100-300 year old] cultural artifacts are are protected by the federal govt. At one league [2.5 miles] that rock being off an inch will be off 100 feet a couple miles away...we always hunt with a camera and a compass and never never never move any rock ever. Even if we can't decode what it is saying, we leave it for more advanced trackers in the future.

I am just a little touchy about this subject after 5,000 photos and 25 years of cracking the code they represent...and seeing a person wrap one of these monuments with primer cord and touching it off, blowing
monument rocks the size of vw's off the cliff into the river far below..luckily I had the pic left to work with...and I am still working the site...but without those pics a 300 year old puzzle would have never been solved....and the taste is still sour in my mouth.
no oro now,
rangler

ps: pretty sure it was a monument, you can still see a rock cut in the shape of an "R" right in front, which might be telling you which way to sight thru the gun site..a little natural slippage is one thing dismantling is another...but hey , put it back best you can look both directions see what you see, take a compass bearing check things out, least you can do... you might get lucky.

 

[Headhunter23]

I see why moving it was a no-no but you have to understand, my first thoughts weren't " hmm is that a treasure marker" they were more along the lines of "huh that's a strange looking rock with a notch". How would I have been able to look/sight through it?

 

[Old Dog]

I see why moving it was a no-no but you have to understand, my first thoughts weren't " hmm is that a treasure marker" they were more along the lines of "huh that's a strange looking rock with a notch". How would I have been able to look/sight through it?

What these guys are telling you is that by moving this stone any info it may have imparted to you has been lost.
Using the notch as a guide look in the direction the notch is on, line up with the notch (just like a gunsite) and look into the distance for another marker that it points out. Just that simple.

it may also be a shaft straightening toolused bu native Americans to even the shaft of a projectile.