Sunken superyacht believed to contain watertight safes with sensitive intelligence data

[Physics guy]

Yikes!
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/21/europe/bayesian-yacht-watertight-safes-intl

 

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[pepperj]

Yikes!
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/21/europe/bayesian-yacht-watertight-safes-intl

1st of all I certainly question anything that CNN touched.

 

[Physics guy]

Here’s another article about it. I can’t guarantee the credibility of either, though.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/21/mike-lynch-luxury-yacht-wreck-bayesian-extra-security

Perhaps 21st century shipwreck treasures will consist of cryptocurrency instead of pieces of eight

 

[MiddenMonster]

Wouldn't surprise me if all that was removed by elite military units within a day or two after the tragedy. Question is, elite military units from what country...?

 

[pepperj]

Wouldn't surprise me if all that was removed by elite military units within a day or two after the tragedy. Question is, elite military units from what country...?

So does this mean that we aren't going to have a Geraldo Rivera version of the safe opening?

 

[MiddenMonster]

So does this mean that we aren't going to have a Geraldo Rivera version of the safe opening?

It might mean that we definitely will have a Geraldo Rivera version of the safe opening! The first hour and 45 minutes will be the divers making their way to the safe, carefully navigating past the helipad, around the brunch table and past six of the full bathrooms. Occasionally a shark will swim by or an eel will poke its head out of a cubby hole. Then they will enter the safe room, remove the framed picture on the wall hiding the safe...and the viewers will see a hole in the wall where it used to be.

The CIA. You don't know. You don't want to know...

 

[releventchair]

"Prosecutors think"
"May contain sensitive data"

Maybe prosecutors ought to be paying for security then?

I never considered hiding valuables on any boat of mine.
Why is that?

 

[DizzyDigger]

I never considered hiding valuables on any boat of mine.
Why is that?

You don't have a boat?

 

[MiddenMonster]

I never considered hiding valuables on any boat of mine.
Why is that?

You're a pirate, and therefore required to bury your valuables?

 

[Crow]

If there was any real sensitive data on that vessel we would not being hearing this story at all? The story is just shameless journalistic sensationalism of a tragedy.

Crow

 

[releventchair]

You're a pirate, and therefore required to bury your valuables?

Position of valuable vs why. Why put it in a compromised and vulnerable position.

I don't need my security secured items aboard a cruise.
If that valuable they'd be safer on me than in a safe.
And if I get carried off or go overboard?

Are bank safety deposit boxes safe?
I'd rather bury.

Had a call from jail one night. The police had seen that a vessels operator was stopped from being in control of it.
Would I retrieve the associate's boat and the gal with it?
(Hours later inland she was still wearing a life preserver. Oh boy!)

Same boat , different event , a passenger woke in the wee hours to someone exiting the craft.
Someone not supposed to be aboard.
Ya. Guess if valuable was or was not the target?
No no safe. But a glass boat over small wood. Prying a safe loose doable. And two stout men could trot with one.
Go ahead! Potential sinking is enough reason for me to vote no. Let alone being robbed prior.

 

[MiddenMonster]

If there was any real sensitive data on that vessel we would not being hearing this story at all?

Probably not--unless making it public serves someone's interest. Even if that interest is screwing someone over, or is an attempt to spur someone to take some kind of action.

I don't need my security secured items aboard a cruise.
If that valuable they'd be safer on me than in a safe.
And if I get carried off or go overboard?

Are bank safety deposit boxes safe?
I'd rather bury.

Wouldn't what you do depend, at least in some way, on what you are trying to protect? This dude supposedly had heavily encrypted hard drives in the safe. Personally, I'd be very hesitant to bury anything electronic in the ground. Same for documents. Precious metals? Sure, why not. Whether or not you keep something secured on your yacht would also depend on whether or not you had a need to access that something. If he's dealing with government spooks and shadowy industry titans he may have needed to access the data on those hard drives. I'm thinking that they were in the safe because he was on the yacht, and they probably travel with him wherever he goes, whether that's on a private jet, his bullet and bomb proof car or his yacht. If I were a potential international safe cracker I would be looking to see if he had backups, and where they were stored.

 

[releventchair]

Probably not--unless making it public serves someone's interest. Even if that interest is screwing someone over, or is an attempt to spur someone to take some kind of action.

Wouldn't what you do depend, at least in some way, on what you are trying to protect? This dude supposedly had heavily encrypted hard drives in the safe. Personally, I'd be very hesitant to bury anything electronic in the ground. Same for documents. Precious metals? Sure, why not. Whether or not you keep something secured on your yacht would also depend on whether or not you had a need to access that something. If he's dealing with government spooks and shadowy industry titans he may have needed to access the data on those hard drives. I'm thinking that they were in the safe because he was on the yacht, and they probably travel with him wherever he goes, whether that's on a private jet, his bullet and bomb proof car or his yacht. If I were a potential international safe cracker I would be looking to see if he had backups, and where they were stored.

1977-8 area a yacht was impounded by Canadian customs for two pot seeds.
Think about that. And what legal rights would you have in foreign waters? Or returning to your own?? Let alone your legal standing with the port authority.
Was the yacht private? Immune to search and seizure?
Did it matter the seeds were not the owner of the yachts?
I wouldn't consider the yachts safes safe.....

A friend worked for serious money on an always moored yacht. It's safe may have been safer than one underway on the open sea. Lakes in that vessels case..

Hard drives can be secured ashore in a vast array of methods.
Obviously more accessible than on a sunken ship.
But then , how important a matter to the yachts owner today?
Maybre the safes were waterproof and the person or persons the hard drives were assigned to after the owners death were expected to recover them?