Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID SOLVED!

[Baggins]

This is from my New Year hunt out at my friends ranch here in North Texas....There is a cabin site that I have been hunting for a couple of years, and it never fails to disappoint. Last year I found the barrel to a Colt Navy revolver, 36Cal. and this year I dug this up....It is part of the handle to a gun, but on the side it has 44Cal stamped on it....To me it looks as if it is for maybe a 3rd version of a Colt Dragoon...any help on this? I will post some of my other finds from New Years tomorrow...gotta head out to work....
As always, thanks for stopping by and taking a look!
Baggins

 

[Baggins]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

Well, not sure, I was told it was...what is the best way to tell?
Baggins

 

[Baggins]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

Here is some pics of the barrel I found last year to an 1851 Colt revolver.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

Wow that looks exactly like my replica when I disassemble it for cleaning. The bottom lever is for loading the round balls. Yes, you need to measure the inside diameter of the barrel. Did you use electrolysis on it to preserve it? It may be hard to measure with all the rust. Try using a wire brush inside. .44 cal. would be 44/100 of an inch or about 11 mm.

 

[Baggins]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

Electrolysis is next...have to get one set up...I am hoping to find a serial number on it, and if the handle goes with it (after some straightening) I will make a display of it for the land owner...
Baggins

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

I hope you find the cylinder.

 

[Baggins]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

I do as well....the barrel and this handle were found about a good 75-80 feet apart....also found what looks like to be a trigger pretty close to the handle, but don't think it goes with this gun...and a hammer last year, and in approximately in the same area...
Baggins

 

[l.cutler]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

The Colt Navy revolvers were never made in .44. It could also be a non colt percussion or cartridge revolver. I don't remember ever seeing a Colt stamped 44 cal in that way, but I am no expert. If Colt the serial number will be behind the screw hole on the front part of the triggerguard.

 

[Monty]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

OOPS, failed to see the .44 designation. There is a .44 cal reproduction made but I think this is original. Therefore I have no other choice other than to back up and say it's an 1860 Army model. Monty

 

[Baggins]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

Here is a pic of the serial #...
Baggins

 

[olepossum]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

it is the trigger guard and and handle to a 44cal blackpowder pistol i should know i own 8 of them i do a lot of cowboy action shooting and civil war re enactments every year i ride with a group called the missouri border ruffians you know the ones that would ride into kansas and spread fear and terror in the hearts of all those dirty jayhawkers

 

[olepossum]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

maw just a regular old 44 army colt to small for a dragoon model thay are big like a walker frame cyclinder held 50 grain of powder and a ball or conical to boot

 

[Monty]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

Is there an echo in here? After all the info was disseminated that's the conclusion I came to, an 1860 Colt Army model. I know a little bit about most guns but not a lot about but just a few. Besides the net I have a few good reference books that help a lot. So, I know just enough to be wrong a lot of the time! M nty

 

[allen]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

definetily the frame to an older model pistol...

 

[steif]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

Doing a little digging I think I have positively ID'd this part, it has the same shape as this, and the steel part inletted in the backstrap if for attatchment of the mainspring, so http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_434_435_441&products_id=1151 mind you this is for a reproduction or original backstrap. identical lines and screwholes. also that gun was produced in 1868. go here for serial number lists... http://proofhouse.com/colt/index.html I think that pretty much nails this one down, now get out there and find the rest of it...lol...
Great find by the way...

 

[Baggins]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

Hey Steif, I think that is it...will be seeing an expert tomorrow am and will know for sure!
Thanks to all for their help!
Baggins

 

[Baggins]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

Took the handle to a gun expert, and he tells me that it is a Colt Army, but is a civilian model...apparently the rarer of the two...I will hopefully be getting back soon to find the rest of it!
Baggins

 

[longsocks]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

thats history pluss a cool find..

 

[Michigan Badger]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

Gun parts are extra great digs!

Congrats!

Badger

 

[tapoutking]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

Its part of the heel.

 

[kaikaitoo]

Re: Texas ranch yields yet another gun part--help ID

This is from my New Year hunt out at my friends ranch here in North Texas....There is a cabin site that I have been hunting for a couple of years, and it never fails to disappoint. Last year I found the barrel to a Colt Navy revolver, 36Cal. and this year I dug this up....It is part of the handle to a gun, but on the side it has 44Cal stamped on it....To me it looks as if it is for maybe a 3rd version of a Colt Dragoon...any help on this? I will post some of my other finds from New Years tomorrow...gotta head out to work....
As always, thanks for stopping by and taking a look!
Baggins

nice 44 caliber