The Benghazi Cover-Up Myth: No "Stand Down" Order Issued

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An important element in the Benghazi cover-up urban legend is the mythical "stand down" order. Help was sent immediately to those under siege. But those pushing the story have continued to claim nefarious motives for more assistance not being dispatched. Former Defense Secretary Gates pointed out some people who believe this have a "cartoonish" view of the US Military.

Now there's more evidence the Stand Down Order was never issued.

CIA Benghazi team clash led to 'stand down' report

By: KIMBERLY DOZIER (AP)

WASHINGTON (AP) — CIA officers revealed a clash over how quickly they should go help the besieged U.S. ambassador during the 2012 attack on an outpost in Libya, and a standing order for them to avoid violent encounters, according to a congressman and others who heard their private congressional testimony or were briefed on it.

The Obama administration has been dogged by complaints that the White House, Pentagon and State Department may not have done enough before and during the attack to save U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others, and by accusations that it later engaged in a cover-up.

One allegation was that U.S. officials told the CIA to "stand down" and not go to the aid of the Americans. Top CIA and Defense and State Department officials have denied that.

The testimony from the CIA officers and contractors who were in Libya on the night of Sept. 11, 2012, bolster those denials, but also shed light on what may have led to the delay of up to 30 minutes to respond, according to the varying accounts.

None of those who testified said a quicker response would have saved the lives of Stevens and communications specialist Sean Smith at the temporary diplomatic facility.


[url]http://bigstory.ap.org/article/cia-benghazi-team-clash-led-stand-down-report[/URL]

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo
 

So those people aren't really dead, the CIA and the military that were nearby did go to their aid, and it really was all about a movie ? Cool :thumbsup: Why are high ranking military officers who might have inside info as to the actual facts being forced into early retirement ? ps.. I don't really expect an answer.
 

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So those people aren't really dead, the CIA and the military that were nearby did go to their aid, and it really was all about a movie ? Cool :thumbsup: Why are high ranking military officers who might have inside info as to the actual facts being forced into early retirement ? ps.. I don't really expect an answer.

and, you wont get one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Everyone knows we couldn't have a "terror attack" just before an election.... We "have'em on the run"...!!!!! (remember) A large military response would have just rubber stamped this as such.
 

Limitool:

A "large military response" wasn't wise and wasn't possible. It was called a terror attack right away. You can buy into the pre-election narrative if you want. I remember when people whined about President Clinton and the "wag the dog" scenario.

It's the old Obama Whipsaw - rant about what he does, rant about what he doesn't do.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo
 

Limitool:

A "large military response" wasn't wise and wasn't possible. It was called a terror attack right away. You can buy into the pre-election narrative if you want. I remember when people whined about President Clinton and the "wag the dog" scenario.

It's the old Obama Whipsaw - rant about what he does, rant about what he doesn't do.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo
Holy hell man ! Did you watch different television stations than the rest of the world did AS IT WAS HAPPENING and for days afterwards or did you just come out of a 2 year nap in a cave ? Or do you get all your info from Google ? Now you're denying that the initial reports were that it was a spontaneous riot because of a movie ? It was NOT called a "terror attack" right away. That's an outright lie. Let me try to help you out bro. You're completely ruining any credibility you might have had with this thread. The rest of us watched it unfold on tv and we remember it well. You're not fooling anyone. :thumbsup:
 

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Yeah and the media is a good source for credible information to quote to back your arguments. :laughing9: I have been at disasters, events, etc in the course of my job where something was totally taken out of context or just totally didn't happen the way it was reported in the media, just because it went out on the AP doesn't mean its gospel truth or correct.
 

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Limitool:

A "large military response" wasn't wise and wasn't possible. It was called a terror attack right away. You can buy into the pre-election narrative if you want. I remember when people whined about President Clinton and the "wag the dog" scenario.

It's the old Obama Whipsaw - rant about what he does, rant about what he doesn't do.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

Guy.... WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR NEWS!!!!! When one of our foreign embassy's is under attack the full force of our military should brought down instantly on the intruders and ANYBODY else standing around. And what do you MEAN it wasn't wise or possible????? There were Americans serving our country there and they were under attack!!!! Four of them died trying to STAY ALIVE.... and you say its wasn't wise to respond???? And you say "it was called a terror attack right away"????? When were you born dude or where have you been? The White House blamed it on a damn video.... are you kidding me!!!!! And where was Libya's government during this attack? What's the hells wrong with you.... ? Good thing I wasn't calling the shots. I'd of called Libya's govt. and told them to clear out a 1/2 mile area because its ALL BECOMING A CRATER IN ONE HOUR.

Where do some of these people come up with this stuff????? ..... I gotta go get a 12 pack now.....Brad
 

too sad...."When one of our foreign embassy's is under attack the full force of our military should brought down instantly"

what military were you in that responds INSTANTLY? to anything?
there was no government in Libya ...we backed insurgents destroying the government...remember?
waaaa obama's letting Libyans be killed..waaaa...so he creates a no fly zone so the insurgents can kill Kaddafi in the gutter...remember?

never mind.
 

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Yeah and the media is a good source for credible information to quote to back your arguments. :laughing9: I have been at disasters, events, etc in the course of my job where something was totally taken out of context or just totally didn't happen the way it was reported in the media, just because it went out on the AP doesn't mean its gospel truth or correct.

And your source of information is a bearded man carrying stone tablets?
 

So those people aren't really dead, the CIA and the military that were nearby did go to their aid, and it really was all about a movie ? Cool :thumbsup: Why are high ranking military officers who might have inside info as to the actual facts being forced into early retirement ? ps.. I don't really expect an answer.

Yet, you don't question the anti obama version of events put out by the ultra right? Of course, they would know!
 

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Stand down not issued? What the hell does that matter?

I can't believe there are so many people that don't get It! It is a lack of "standing up" that is the problem. The currant crop of anti-American Libs did nothing. What is the difference between doing nothing at all and issuing a stand down order? Doing nothing and standing down are the same thing! Doing nothing while American civilians and American soldiers are being killed is the problem...end of the story. Same thing happened under Bush? He was certainly not a right wing conservative so why does that surprise anyone?

Three!...two!...one!...Quickly Boys! Someone come up with a symantical tap dance that explains the difference between "doing nothing" and "standing down".

If there really is a difference between doing nothing and standing down I think it has something to do with playing golf.
 

I just find it so sad that this country had four Americans fighting for their lives in our embassy and the White House instead of responding just starts blaming a video. Everybody's a victim these days. And still no response or justice...

If that happened at my home on this ridge top I wouldn't count on any help either... that's why I have many guns locked and loaded all over my property's. Someone breaks in (and lives) and I get out.... they can stay. Getting out will hurt.
 

An important element in the Benghazi cover-up urban legend is the mythical "stand down" order. Help was sent immediately to those under siege. But those pushing the story have continued to claim nefarious motives for more assistance not being dispatched. Former Defense Secretary Gates pointed out some people who believe this have a "cartoonish" view of the US Military.

Now there's more evidence the Stand Down Order was never issued.

CIA Benghazi team clash led to 'stand down' report

By: KIMBERLY DOZIER (AP)

WASHINGTON (AP) — CIA officers revealed a clash over how quickly they should go help the besieged U.S. ambassador during the 2012 attack on an outpost in Libya, and a standing order for them to avoid violent encounters, according to a congressman and others who heard their private congressional testimony or were briefed on it.

The Obama administration has been dogged by complaints that the White House, Pentagon and State Department may not have done enough before and during the attack to save U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others, and by accusations that it later engaged in a cover-up.

One allegation was that U.S. officials told the CIA to "stand down" and not go to the aid of the Americans. Top CIA and Defense and State Department officials have denied that.

The testimony from the CIA officers and contractors who were in Libya on the night of Sept. 11, 2012, bolster those denials, but also shed light on what may have led to the delay of up to 30 minutes to respond, according to the varying accounts.

None of those who testified said a quicker response would have saved the lives of Stevens and communications specialist Sean Smith at the temporary diplomatic facility.


CIA Benghazi team clash led to 'stand down' report

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

If there was only a 30 minute delay, what about the other five plus hours where there were hostilities?

How the Benghazi Attack Unfolded - Timeline - WSJ.com

Mob began gathering about 8:00 PM, shot fired at 9:30 PM, Consulate in flames by 10:00 PM, U.S. Security reinforcements arrive from Tripoli some time after 1:00 AM.

Some time after 2:00 AM Annex comes under attack. Fierce fighting for an hour. Former Navy SEALs Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods are killed.

Now what's that about a 30 minutes wait?
 

I can't believe so many folks support these monsters. Is their hatred so fierce that are desperate to trade America for something much worse?
 

I just find it so sad that this country had four Americans fighting for their lives in our embassy and the White House instead of responding just starts blaming a video. Everybody's a victim these days. And still no response or justice...

And i think it's sad that the right has used the deaths of these four Americans to try to further it's anti Obama agenda.
 

I find the level of hypocrisy on the right to be both troubling and entertaining. They only want to focus on the slices of info that feed their agenda, and the rest is discarded. They will focus on the deaths of four people when they think someone else is responsible, and yet will ignore it when many more deaths are their responsibility.
 

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