The coolest pipe EVER

[Garscale]

Ever seen a pipe like this one? 30 years ago, a 10 year old boy found this pipe on part of my Houston Co site in East Tx but on neighboring property. The kid is now 40 and a business owner. I ran into him last year in a business setting and asked is he still had the pipe. He wasnt sure but said he would dig around in some drawers and try to find it. I gave him my number and left. He called me the next day and had found it.

The pipe resembles post contact trade pipe but this one is carved and polished not molded. Also I dont know what the material may be but not clay. I was able to acquire the pipe and love it.

 

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[newnan man]

Garscales pipe does not appear to be fired clay. They are very similar. This is an interesting thread.

 

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[outlaws15]

Garscales pipe smile is so much more upward then the above pictures, but looks identical other then that little thing

 

[Relicgrubber]

What is your best guess Gar? As to what it’s crafted from....View attachment 1909449

Looked it over several times, yes,off work today

From the damage it looks to be glazed pottery. I could be wrong tho...

 

[Garscale]

I have one in my collection.

Wow it sure is similar. I wonder if his repros are based on a real deal? Mine was found in 1989 on an undeveloped Indian site in East tx. Similarity is striking. Mine does appear to be carved from a solid stock but its possible I'm wrong about that. Also I'm pretty sure mine is not clay.

 

[Garscale]

From the damage it looks to be glazed pottery. I could be wrong tho...

Might be but I dont think so. The bowl was gouged out not formed. The similarity is no coincidence though. Definitely on the right track.

 

[Up-North]

Bingo

 

[uniface]

There are several kinds of pipestone, FWIW.

 

[ToddsPoint]

Heat would destroy ivory. Couldn't be ivory. Gary

 

[Relicgrubber]

It traveled quite always from the east coast. Could have been traded in or lost by early explores or settlers.

 

[Garscale]

Heat would destroy ivory. Couldn't be ivory. Gary

Agreed

 

[Indian Steve]

I have had mine since the late 1970s/ early 1980s. It was bought at Sedgefield flea Market near Jamestown North Carolina. I bought, at least, a dozen of them. I was selling pipes that i had dug in Mogadore Ohio out of the back of a 1937 Plymouth Coupe. People would bring me pipes and I would buy as many as i could. I would save one or two for my collection and sell/ trade/ give away the rest.

 

[Indian Steve]

Each of the pipes were hand incised and there would be slight differences between pipes.

 

[Garscale]

Each of the pipes were hand incised and there would be slight differences between pipes.

Great info. Mine shows no sign of a mold line.do you think they were molded?

 

[Indian Steve]

Here are some pics of my Catawba Indian Pipe. The initial shape was molded and the carved and incised before firing. Each one is different yet close to the same. I have been to the potteries at Seagrove NC including the Owens Pottery where this was supposedly made. On mine you can barely feel the mold line from the chin to the stem hole. The inside of the bowl looks more carved than molded but it was molded then "carved"

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Garscale, please keep politics out of the forum, thanks.

 

[Indian Steve]

Figure 55. A more ornate incised peace pipe observed by the Willoughby method from the top down showing not only the sacred fire but also the use of a sun circle motif. This vessel is attributed to Rhoda George Harris (ca. 1818-1918). (Blumer Collection)

Figure 56. Several feather motif treatments incised on an Indian head pipe. (Blumer Collection)pipes, it is sometimes used to decorate larger vessels as well. Georgia Harris often circled the rims of her bowls with the pattern's graceful variation. Doris Blue often used the feather motif for her smoking pipes. Peace pipes are often decorated with this motif. As a rule, the feathers point downward as a sign of peace (Figure 57).
This motif has undergone a certain evolution in the last 120 years. The oldest form of the motif is stylized and stiff and bears a striking resemblance to what archaeologists might find in a dig. Pipes attributed to Susannah Harris Owl are decorated in this fashion (Figure 58a). One of the first documented potters to begin the transition of the feather motif to that of a fern or a palm leaf was Rosie Harris Wheelock (Figure 58b). Her daughter continued the process (Figure 58c). In recent years some of the potters have tended to make their feathers graceful, more in the direction of fern fronds. In some potters' interpretation, the motif is somewhat confused between a feather and a leaf.
While Sus

 

[Garscale]

Garscale, please keep politics out of the forum, thanks.

Just noticed a striking resemblance to my pipe. Wasnt meant to be political at all but I'll certainly do so.

 

[Garscale]

Here are some pics of my Catawba Indian Pipe. The initial shape was molded and the carved and incised before firing. Each one is different yet close to the same. I have been to the potteries at Seagrove NC including the Owens Pottery where this was supposedly made. On mine you can barely feel the mold line from the chin to the stem hole. The inside of the bowl looks more carved than molded but it was molded then "carved"View attachment 1909605View attachment 1909607View attachment 1909609View attachment 1909610View attachment 1909611

Mine is quite different from yours but clearly we are on the right track. The etching on yours appears to have been done while the clay was wet. Mine is scratched into the material.

You are a wealth of information on these things. It's a puzzle how it ended up on a native site deep in the woods of East Tx.

 

[Garscale]

Indian Steve, do you know if these novelty pipes were a copy of origional native work or were they all post contact creations?

 

[Tnmountains]

Nice clay trade pipe.