The New Upgrade Killed my Computer

[4077]

I'm using a friend's computer to log in to TreasureNet to just make a comment (for what it's worth). The new upgrade wiped me out. When pages load there's only blank pages with a sprinkling of check boxes which will disappear when I mouse-over them.

Going to the FORUM section causes my processor to be 100% consumed forever, requiring a shutdown of my browser so I'm no longer going to be able to participate on the site.

First I'd like to say, don't worry about it. That's progress. The site runs extremely well and it is quite impressive on this Windows 7 computer so I guess all is okay.

Why did it stop working on my computer?

I'm running Windows 2000 Professional (which I prefer over XP, Win 7 etc.) Every week it seems that there is another site that won't function on my machine. Especially since so many places started imbedding "FACEBOOK" links and "TWITTER" links.

I did a Facebook page for a while but it's too structured for me. When I have something to say, I want to be able to say it. That often takes several paragraphs of text for me. That's where Facebook and I had problems. It seems that most Facebook members relate in a string of "one-liners" or just select a response or comment from a library of "canned" expressions. Not my style.

Kind of like buying a ready-made greeting card and trying to find one that already has the text inside that expresses how I feel about you. Sorry, that's tacky! I'll write my own message or my own little poem or ditty or whatever... and I'll address your envelope in cursive longhand... and I won't put a sticker on for the return address. If it is something personal from me to you, I'll take the time to write it out.

Ever get one of those letters in the mail, "CAR RT SORT - Dear John J. Kiser, As owner of a 2000 Ford F-150, we know that you, Mr. John J. Kiser want to take care of your investment - blah - blah - blah.

You know that somebody sent you that very personal letter from a computer file of canned lists and it's almost an insult to read it. That's how I feel about Facebook. I deleted the page and the pictures I'd put there and I'm not going back.

So when I go to a website that has Twitter and Facebook links that halt my computer for 20 seconds while they're all getting loaded and the newspaper article I'm reading jumps to the top of the screen 4 times while I'm trying to read, I kinda cuss Facebook and their links again.

But hey, that's just me. A lot of people use Facebook and Twitter and the one-liners are just fine for them and so we're not going back to the good ol days of 2010 ever again.

Programmers are going to build sites that are compatible with Win 7, whether I approve or not. That's just life. In spite of the fact that TreasureNet and a lot of other places in the world are passing me by, the problems I experience are still not so bad that I'm willing to give up my Y2K operating system.

These days about every 3rd site I go to flashes a warning "NOTICE: YOU'RE USING AN OUTDATED BROWSER THAT WE NO LONGER SUPPORT. CLICK HERE TO UPGRADE TO GOOGLE CHROME"

Well, you know how that goes, Google Chrome cannot run under your present operating system - upgrade to Windows 7 -

System requirements: Windows 7 requires at least x Random Access Memory and at least XXxx processor speed.

Sorry but my IBM NetVISTA at 1.8 MHz with a single core serves me just fine and I'm not going to go out and spend $500 so I can load Win 7 and pay another $200 for Win 7 and have all my software and printers incompatible with the new operating system and have to spend another $1100 for new applications, etc., etc.

Maybe about 2019, I'll be forced to do it but until then you'll probably not see me around a lot of the sites we used to frequent. So THERE! Phtttttt

LOL just kidding about the Phtttt but serious about the rest.

See ya in the funny paper.

4077

 

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[JohnDroid]

4077,

Sorry to hear you are having issues. I can assure you nothing is wrong with your computer, but some older browsers just don't work with some of the newer web. Eventually an upgrade has to be done.

What I would suggest is at the very least, temporarily, try downloading Google Chrome or Firefox. Both are free and are very great browsers that will run just fine on your OS and hardware.

You can get Google Chrome here: https://www.google.com/chrome

And it has the added benefit in that it is much more secure against adware, viruses, malware, spyware, etc.

You can get Firefox at: Mozilla Firefox Web Browser

Try either and see which one you prefer and please let us know!

 

[charliejr]

I went to college for computer sciences and I can say the new system uses 100 times the effort as compared to the older system. With client side baring the burden of processing capabilities. You have effectively hurt a majority of your most senior users by implementing this new system.

I tested it on 5 different browsers and arrived at the same results. To many bangs, thrills, and whistles.

Quote, "Just because you put shiny rims on a car does not mean it will drive better or run faster."

I am surprised that it was not announced to users who have been here since 2005 how drastic the changes were going to be.

 

[spartacus53]

Maybe it's time people upgraded their computers... Ones made in the 80's with no upgrades won't cut it

 

[SeaninNH]

Maybe it's time people upgraded their computers... Ones made in the 80's with no upgrades won't cut it

Yes, because it's a reasonable request to ask someone to upgrade their computer(that was working perfectly fine on the old forum) to read a forum.... STUPID COMMENT!

 

[charliejr]

Considering a majority of the users here are "seniors", metal detecting and treasure hunting, doing things only licensed "seniors" are doing, that it would only make sense to keep that in mind. The younger generations are just looking for excitement and a quick buck.

So what if I use a Pen 1, and the oldest browser. Since the Eniac, Univac, and other forms of silicon based technology, when it comes down to it, aside from the pictures and text, that is all you need. As a former web administrator for a BBS I know this.

Word to the Wise. It is always good to keep a few relics around, especially when they will work when most modern gizmo's won't. Phhh* Kids.

People proly forget candles to (that work when you light em with a match) when their blessed electricity goes out.

 

[bigscoop]

Gone is the day of the original "dedicated" treasure hunting web site. Marc had a very personal attachment to the website, the new owners have a dedicated business attachment to the site. The changes that are taking place will create more business potential. Can't fault them for implementing the changes. Personally, I liked the old Tnet, but that's no longer an option, so it is what it is. I just hope that on down the road this will still be largely a treasure hunting website because i really have no interest in meeting Hot Single Christians or learning how to become Clairvoyant. Only time will tell. Until then I'm just going to keep doing what I do....living life and going with the flow as best I can.

 

[Twisted One]

Honestly you went to college for computer science and you prefer Windows 2k over newer operating systems, and run it on a computer that overloads the processor when trying to open a browser? I understand you are a senior, and have better things to do. But honestly a trip to Best Buy, or Wal-Mart and for $250 would probably buy you a decent laptop compared to what you have. Or even go get one of them new fangled generic Ipads, the 7" Coby is usually like $70 bucks and can open all sorts of websites.
I understand you don't seem to be that concerned with whether you can access the site or not, but there is no reason you shouldn't be able to. I am on a low end dual core processor, and 1 core is running at 16%, the other core bounces from 5% to 15% with my browser open, and I have a lot of background stuff running on this system, so the browser counts for very little of that.

 

[Twisted One]

Maybe it's time people upgraded their computers... Ones made in the 80's with no upgrades won't cut it

Yes, because it's a reasonable request to ask someone to upgrade their computer(that was working perfectly fine on the old forum) to read a forum.... STUPID COMMENT!

It is not reasonable to run a computer more than 6 years old and expect everyone to wait for you. 6 years is the typical cut off period. Most computer repair place will not work on a computer more than 4 years old because it usually cost more to fix it than it does to buy a new one. The 6 year cut off is because itis nearly impossible to guarantee a customer that you can find compatible parts for it.
It's not a matter of opinion, or preference. It is a matter of time, your computer is usually out dated by the time you leave the check out counter with it.

 

[SeaninNH]

People need to STOP telling people to get a new computer to read a f#^king forum!

How about fixing the problem and removing some of the CRAP that was added?

My computer was just FINE on the old TNet and it's FINE on other forums. It's the NEW CRAP that bogs pages down to where it takes 2-3 minutes to load.

And for the record. My computer is less than 6 months old and I'm sure MUCH better than 90% of your computers.

As you can see... There is NO reason I should be lagging on a forum!

 

[Twisted One]

Sorry but my IBM NetVISTA at 1.8 MHz with a single core serves me just fine and I'm not going to go out and spend $500 so I can load Win 7 and pay another $200 for Win 7 and have all my software and printers incompatible with the new operating system and have to spend another $1100 for new applications, etc., etc.



4077

If you bought a new computer it comes with the Windows 7 operating system on it, you don't pay extra for it. A simple netbook that you can get for under $200 would be a huge improvement over your current set up.

 

[spartacus53]

Twisted, I think you may have earned a good position in my new regime

Hey potty mouth... What do people do when they need glasses to read a newspaper, you think they use drinking glasses

 

[Twisted One]

People need to STOP telling people to get a new computer to read a f#^king forum!

How about fixing the problem and removing some of the CRAP that was added?

My computer was just FINE on the old TNet and it's FINE on other forums. It's the NEW CRAP that bogs pages down to where it takes 2-3 minutes to load.

And for the record. My computer is less than a year old and I'm sure MUCH better than 90% of your computers.

I assure you if yours is a year old it is not better than my main computer. I have seven computers in my house, three desktops, and four laptops, dating from five years old, to less then a month old, and I can open this forum on every one of them in seconds, on Chrome, IE, or Firefox.
In my computer networking class last night I checked it on the class computer, and on my lab partners mac book, no issues there.

I suggest anyone having a problem with loading the page, that does have a computer that was not built before the cold war to consider going to the site for the browser of their choice and downloading the newest version, run windows update and make sure you have the most recent service pack. In your browser clear your cache. On your computer run disk clean up and defrag. Go to your anti virus program and update it with the newest version and run it.
I have not seen any issues wit site performance and I can't understand why you would unless you gave me more details of what is happening.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

I myself am still running windows xp on my desktop, havent upgraded, running windows 7 on my wife's laptop, newer does not always mean better, Vista was a perfect example.
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[JohnDroid]

Guys, let's not pile in on anyone... I totally understand the frustrations on the new site. And I can assure you that it works fine on Windows XP, Windows 2000 and Windows 7. However, I know there are older versions of Internet Explorer that may have problems with the site. In fact, Microsoft even FORCEFULLY upgraded some users to a different version specifically because IT HAD PROBLEMS:

Microsoft to Force New Internet Explorer on Users / Infopackets.com

We try our best to make the site work on as many browsers and operating systems as possible. And I respect that there are a lot of older machines out there. In fact, on my computer, the old site used up 50% of my CPU because the "banner finds" and some other elements REQUIRED FLASh to work properly and the Flash ate up a ton of my CPU. This new site does not require flash and therefore actually uses up about 5% of my CPU instead of 50% like the old site.

All I suggested was the user upgrade to a newer, more secure, FREE BROWSER. Not the actual hardware. Then if the site runs fine on the NEW BROWSER at least we know it's an IE issue and we can do more testing on that specific version of IE... maybe it's a plugin or an extension. Troubleshooting is eliminating as much as possible and then slowly re-adding things back in until you find the one culprit causing it, then you go from there. Changing the browser is quick, easy, free and helps us track down the problem.

 

[SeaninNH]

People need to STOP telling people to get a new computer to read a f#^king forum!

How about fixing the problem and removing some of the CRAP that was added?

My computer was just FINE on the old TNet and it's FINE on other forums. It's the NEW CRAP that bogs pages down to where it takes 2-3 minutes to load.

And for the record. My computer is less than a year old and I'm sure MUCH better than 90% of your computers.

I assure you if yours is a year old it is not better than my main computer. I have seven computers in my house, three desktops, and four laptops, dating from five years old, to less then a month old, and I can open this forum on every one of them in seconds, on Chrome, IE, or Firefox.
In my computer networking class last night I checked it on the class computer, and on my lab partners mac book, no issues there.

I suggest anyone having a problem with loading the page, that does have a computer that was not built before the cold war to consider going to the site for the browser of their choice and downloading the newest version, run windows update and make sure you have the most recent service pack. In your browser clear your cache. On your computer run disk clean up and defrag. Go to your anti virus program and update it with the newest version and run it.
I have not seen any issues wit site performance and I can't understand why you would unless you gave me more details of what is happening.

Can't give may more details than I click a link to view a page and it takes 2-3 minutes to open. I submit a post and it takes a minute or so to post... I'm reading a post and scrolling down and it lags, then starts scrolling, then lags, then starts scrolling.

 

[JohnDroid]

Can't give may more details than I click a link to view a page and it takes 2-3 minutes to open. I submit a post and it takes a minute or so to post... I'm reading a post and scrolling down and it lags, then starts scrolling, then lags, then starts scrolling.

Sean,

I've addressed your concerns a few times already and this will be my last attempt.

1. I realize you are having problems and for that, I apologize. Sincerely. However, I'm limited in what I can do to fix it, and I do know that MOST people are not having this issue. Again, I apologize.
2. In order to help us track down the problem we ask that you at least TRY another browser to see if it's a browser issue. If it does this same thing in Firefox and Chrome then we know it's not your browser. If it doesn't, then we know it's your browser and we can go from there.
3. If you don't want to try another browser... I understand. But you must understand that if you don't, I won't be able to do much to help you track it down or fix it.

 

[Twisted One]

People need to STOP telling people to get a new computer to read a f#^king forum!

How about fixing the problem and removing some of the CRAP that was added?

My computer was just FINE on the old TNet and it's FINE on other forums. It's the NEW CRAP that bogs pages down to where it takes 2-3 minutes to load.

And for the record. My computer is less than a year old and I'm sure MUCH better than 90% of your computers.

I assure you if yours is a year old it is not better than my main computer. I have seven computers in my house, three desktops, and four laptops, dating from five years old, to less then a month old, and I can open this forum on every one of them in seconds, on Chrome, IE, or Firefox.
In my computer networking class last night I checked it on the class computer, and on my lab partners mac book, no issues there.

I suggest anyone having a problem with loading the page, that does have a computer that was not built before the cold war to consider going to the site for the browser of their choice and downloading the newest version, run windows update and make sure you have the most recent service pack. In your browser clear your cache. On your computer run disk clean up and defrag. Go to your anti virus program and update it with the newest version and run it.
I have not seen any issues wit site performance and I can't understand why you would unless you gave me more details of what is happening.

Can't give may more details than I click a link to view a page and it takes 2-3 minutes to open. I submit a post and it takes a minute or so to post... I'm reading a post and scrolling down and it lags, then starts scrolling, then lags, then starts scrolling.

What kind of internet connection are you using, what browser, what version of that browser? According to Johndroid those are most likely going to be your culprits.

 

[JohnDroid]

What kind of internet connection are you using, what browser, what version of that browser? According to Johndroid those are most likely going to be your culprits.

The site should be fast even from a slow internet connection... say even a 512kb DSL connection. Not a modem. However, if you have your "posts per page" set to say, 80 and it has a lot of images -- then that's going to take a long time to download over a slow connection. The old site should have had this same exact problem since most of the data is the actual image attachments on the long threads -- not the site itself.

99% of the problems we've seen so far have been outdated or broken installations of Internet Explorer that not only have problems with our site, but many other sites. They just didn't have problems with the old TNet due to TNet using older HTML standards and coding.

 

[SeaninNH]

I'll try chrome when I get home and let you know how it goes.

Don't get me wrong. I don't mind change. It's just the slooooooooow that is killing me.