Todays find 13.05.2009

[Trond]

Found myself some strange bullets today, the place i found them is very close to a german coastalfortress from ww2.
They are all marked with "R.A" and the year "1943." Anyone who knows what kind of ammo this is?

 

[JJTheisen]

That is pretty sweet stuff right there.

JJ
(Newbie)

 

[ELVISFAN]

spent shell for an M-16 I think...

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

no M-16 in 1943...

i think they are rounds for launching rifle grenades...

 

[DCMatt]

no M-16 in 1943...

i think they are rounds for launching rifle grenades...

 

[kenley]

My guess is .303 British rifle grenade rounds. The crimp is a givaway. Blanks are roll crimped with waxed cardboard sealer.
RA..Royal Armory?

 

[tabking]

It is blank ammo. Look here under blanks at the photo of the 30-06 M3.
http://cartridgecollectors.org/30-06intro/

My first thought was 30-06 blanks from Remington Arms made in 1943.

Still sure on the blanks made in 1943 part,

But since it is in a German position, could they be 8mm Mauser blanks? An 8mm case is the same size at the head as a 30-06 but is a little shorter in length.

Remington Arms used a RA headstamp, but A/S Raufoss Ammunisjonsfabrikker, Raufoss, Norway also used a RA headstamp code.

 

[allen]

you dont see those every day...

 

[Trond]

Thank you all for your great assistance. It would be great if they are rare for collectors.
I'm going back tomorrow, hopefully there is more of the same leftovers from uncle Adolf's troops.

 

[tabking]

It is blank ammo. Look here under blanks at the photo of the 30-06 M3.
http://cartridgecollectors.org/30-06intro/

My first thought was 30-06 blanks from Remington Arms made in 1943.

Still sure on the blanks made in 1943 part,

But since it is in a German position, could they be 8mm Mauser blanks? An 8mm case is the same size at the head as a 30-06 but is a little shorter in length.

Remington Arms used a RA headstamp, but A/S Raufoss Ammunisjonsfabrikker, Raufoss, Norway also used a RA headstamp code.

8mm Mauser (AKA 7.92X57) ammo has a cartridge length of 57 mm. Since blanks are crimped, if this is 8mm ammo you would expect the case length to be a little less than 57 mm. (about the same as .308 (7.62 NATO), but they did not make .308 in 1943.)

If this is 30-06, you would expect a little less than 63 mm for case length.

If it measures up as 1943 made 7.92X57 ammo, I would bet on Raufoss Ammunisjonsfabrikker, but I do not know that for sure.

 

[Trond]

Some collectors looked at the photos and they say it is an cartridge for launching rifle grenades. the caliber is 6,5 and its made for the Krag rifle.

 

[tabking]

Some collectors looked at the photos and they say it is an cartridge for launching rifle grenades. the caliber is 6,5 and its made for the Krag rifle.

That makes more sense than my suggestion that it was 7.92X57. 6.5 Karg should be 6.5 X 55. Cases should be about 55mm long. During German occupation of Norway, the Germans did issue Krag rifles and had limited success at making Krags at Kongsberg Våpenfabrikk, but Norwegian workers found ways to work REAL SLOW for the Germans.

Blank for training or a blank for launching rifle grenades both make sense.