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Two blue green light locations found in Puerto Escondio Oaxaca.

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Hello;
Can be these treasure auras seen in Europe too? ;D....never heard heard about this auras(flames) here....
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HI: it apparently requires a certain type of ground condition. Arid, Adobe or a heavy clay soil which is basically impervious. Perhaps north Africa in your region ?

Generally the first visible indication occurs when the first rains or heavy humid conditions softens or loosens the cohesiveness of the soil allowing the accumulated gas to escape..

Cause? believed to be the decomposition of metal or metal bearing strata such as veins.

All metal does decompose, including Gold and Pt. Just how much is needed to produce a visual effect is unknown since it has never been seriously investigated.

Was just talking to a scientist from IBM about 1/2 hr ago here in Tucson about this, and Nano devices that work with human electrical fields/energies only, fascinating

One poster in here questioned whether gold can be smelled, his answer was "yes", just as the human can detect pheromones from a great distance so can the human detect many odors not normally recognizeable consciously. The detection may not be in the normal way, via the olfactory system.

As for a luminous gas, quite probable, since Gold "does" react in many ways with nature, chemically, electrically, etc. but how much a concentration is needed to normally view it?.

Dr Flores prob. has as much information and experience as anyone in here on this.

Tropical Tramp
 

I always thought the lights came from the "Patron"(or guardian spirits) of the treasure. I know that is not scientific, but some things deify describing.

No I have never seen any lights, but I have heard tales for years.

ericwt
 

Hola ERICWT, my friend. I have followed up many fires as a confidence gaining tactic, among which, I have unconvered iron relics which gave a nice fire (luminous gas).
Since iron probably isn't in "todays" idea of valuable materiel, I wonder about the guarding spirits thing?

Inicdentally, since the exact location of the gas producing unit/agent is soo vague I still will not go out of my way to investigate a "fire.

Tropical Tramp
 

This has been discussed thoroughly in the thread " clues for cache hunting", I have only seen the lights once at about 11 pm on a hill side , the color was red, however the distance was great, therefore I never tried to follow up on it. I will be going to south america at the end of august and I will take pictures of the sites where treasure has been found based on " lights" and also the peculiar mark on the large rocks near the treasure.

Take care
 

SWR ,

I wonder how much actual cache hunting you do, that is outside in the open and not in front of your computer. I can see that you will not benefit from any of those pictures but some may once they see the marks that those "lights" can leave on rocks. Too much negativity in you, get out and enjoy the fresh air,
 

gflores71]
SWR ,
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I wonder how much actual cache hunting you do, that is outside in the open and not in front of your computer. I can see that you will not benefit from any of those pictures but some may once they see the marks that those "lights" can leave on rocks. Too much negativity in you, get out and enjoy the fresh air.
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As for me, post them "Dr Flores" . I, at least, am willing to learn even if it upsets my past convictions or formal learnings.

However, do not expect certain people in here with completely closed minds, to present and future developments, to even acknowledge them.

One of them, still cannot understand the concept of proven nano devices being powered by human energy fields. I believe that some are now being used in your medical fields, no Dr Flores?

I once attempted to explain to him why and how an atomic absorbtion device can accurately detect the presence and determine the quantity of Au in a sample by emission, only to be brushed off as being non-essential sigh.

I only wish that he could talk to some of the "REAL SCIENTISTS" that are among my acquaintaces, maybe he might just start to learn, "all" of them are more than willing to listen to new ideas, no matter how radical they may seem.

Obvious answer, ignore his posts, which have never given a positive or constructive thing in all of the time that I have been in TN, and give us the pictures and data.

We are at least willing to learn.

Tropical Tramp
 

RealdeTayopa: I have do doubt that if iron or other items are giving off a light that it is NOT a "Patron".

There must be a scientific reason for iron giving off light from the ground. What it is I don't know.

What I was talking about is when the Spanish had to stash a cache quick, they buried it, killed a servant or Indian,threw their body on top of it and then buried it. Some of them believed the spirit of the person they killed would Gard the treasure. The myth goes the spirit would be trapped until the treasure was recovered.

I have heard many storeys of this in Mexico and America.

Again I have never seen any colored lights coming from the ground. ;)

But beyond my mind is what Chemisty would cause the light?

I wish you would have taken a soil sample. Maybe there area chemicals in the ground that are reacting to the iron?

ericwt
 

=fleamistress Any real photos of these illuminations anywhere?
Cyn
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May be love, but since no-one runs around with a camera at night, and also since no-one knows where it may pop up, I doubt it.

However I personally have seen several, but since the source may be removed from where it finally exits, I do not go out of my way to search for them.

I even recovered 7 mule loads of silver pesos through just such a fire/luminous gas, and pictures were posted in one of the leads in here.

Tropical Tramp
 

[=SWR ]
It is only negative to those who make-up this BS. A picture of rocks with burn marks….
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it is stupid remarks like this to a far more intelligent and educated man than yourself, that get me disgusted.

First, who said anything about burn marks?

Second, by what authority or specialized knowledge do you have to claim to know more than DR FLORES on this subject?

Third, can you prove that it cannot, or hasn't happend?

I personally have seen these several times, even recovered 7 mule loads of silver Reales with one and posted pictures in your own thead, so I say that "you" are just spouting off plain "BS" , as you so nicely put it, on something of which you have no knowledge or experience. This to me is utter stupidity or simply inexcusable ignorance.

Since I claim to have seen these "fires/luminous gas displays and said so, your remark automatically applies to me and calls me a liar or worse. I resent this.

And yes, this, and DR FLores post, do apply to the blue-green lights thread.

My apologies to the room and TN for this post, but it IS called for.

Tropical Tramp
 

=ericwt ]
RealdeTayopa: I have do doubt that if iron or other items are giving off a light that it is NOT a "Patron".

There must be a scientific reason for iron giving off light from the ground. What it is I don't know.

What I was talking about is when the Spanish had to stash a cache quick, they buried it, killed a servant or Indian,threw their body on top of it and then buried it. Some of them believed the spirit of the person they killed would Gard the treasure. The myth goes the spirit would be trapped until the treasure was recovered.

I have heard many storeys of this in Mexico and America.

Again I have never seen any colored lights coming from the ground. ;)

But beyond my mind is what Chemisty would cause the light?

I wish you would have taken a soil sample. Maybe there area chemicals in the ground that are reacting to the iron?

ericwt
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HI Eric, yes it was not uncommon to do that, in fact the Lauranos of Sinaloa /Sonora always ended up with a priest or some one on top of their materiel, which was almost always in a sealed cave.

When they made the road between El Fuerte and Choix, they accidentally opened up one of these cave deposits while cutting through a hill, it had the usual body on top. The gov't registered approx. $12,000,000 recovered.

K ask me how they accumulated so much $$ , and this was just one of 3 basically known locations, still not found. hehehe.

As for the soil chemistry etc., I am in agreement, but apparently it has never been done even though the gov't officially recognizes that many caches have been found by these luminous gases.

I personally have lost three to people that have followed up these gases, one near Alamos buried by the Yaqui Indians, another near Naranjo in Sinaloa,and the third near El Fuerte. On the one near Naranjo they left the remains of 4 large Ollas which showed the stains of silver coins. I have no idea how much was involved other than it was from an assault on a mule train.The robbers lived nearby and used the utensils from their home.

It is long over due for a scientific investigation , but since no-one seems to want to foot the bill for it -----..

Tropical Tramp
 

Hey Realde....Like most people I have not saw the lights. If I do someday I have someplace to get more information. It's about finding a treasure not about what some Scientist thinks. If I see the lights I will use them.....Art.
 

[=fleamistress
Hm. Wonder if lights leave after the cache leaves.
Also, I think you better go dig up that Jesuit!
Cyn
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HI love, the luminous gas no longer appears after removing the cause, remove the metal and no more gas, co-incidence?.

No Jesuits in or near any of my deposits love, although they did scrag 180 Indians when they were through. Lots of bones.

And yes, the local Indians have seen these luminous gases very very close to my deposits, but fortunately, not close enough nor do they have the ability to finally access them.

Tropical Tramp
 

Joseph,

Now that things are settled in your land, its time to dig, I will keep in touch with you,
Good luck !
 

I think it works something on the same order as the northern lights effect and is dependent on atmospheric conditions, magnetic field generation, ion charge or static electricy in the surrounding area. or maybe something like St. Elmos fire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Elmo's_Fire
 

I think he was wrong to refer to the gold as fuel. More than likely, if it works at all, then the gold being a conductor of electricity reacts somehow with one or more of the conditions from my previous post. I read somewhere that quarts deposits can have similar reactions and cause lights, although I don't understand it that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
 

=fleamistress Tapioca--So much for halo effect then?
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Yes, it would be dissipated when you made the excavation and removed the original mass. Prior to this, the migrating ions would form a halo effect. despite remarks to the contrary it does exist. Easily proven.

Natually the size and effect of the halo would depend upon soil, chemical, electrical, etc., condiitons as well as the orig metallic mass.

Tropical Tramp
 

Sigh, SWR's last posts don't really warrant a response, however - other than that he is at odds with some BONEFIDE SCIENTISTS - he should do some real "open minded" homework, I certainly do not intend to do it for him, since any data that I may present will only fall on a barran mental field.

His last post is typical, a partially true, illogical reasoning process. In effect he is saying that "All trees should have apples"..

I believe that with some "hard mental effort", he will make sense of that.

Incidentally, I am still wondering why he considers himself to be even a partial scientist? My friends at IBM, after seeing some of his posts, certainly do not. They sort of consider him as a human computer disc, programmed to sprew out canned information on demand, but incapable of generating new information,

Tropical Tramp
 

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