chalkoutline
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After joining treasurenet I read several posts indicating the Beale Ciphers used a two step encryption. Since they gave no clues, I summized the following process...
1. Write a message in plain text.
2. Apply a period encryption process: Caesar cipher, vigenere cipher, Gronsfeld cipher or a combination.
Purpose: scrambles the letters of the massage.
Cipher2/DOI did not apply any additional encryption.
3. Create a "key" using a book cipher.
Purpose: Convert the letters to numbers.
This "key" would be given to person in st. Louis.
4.Encrypt the message using the "key"
Purpose: Additional security to allow the "key" and ciphers to be separated.
The ciphers were given to Robert Morriss.
Let's pretend it's 1832 and Robert Morriss receives the "key" from St louis. RM finds a list of numbers with a letter assigned to each number. RM could easily decode the message, locate the treasure and give it to the heirs.
Since the Caesar cipher uses a fixed offset, it could be used and still allow RM to easily decode the message as described.
However, the Vigenere and Gronsfeld cipher has irregular offsets by using a "keyword" which produces multiple letters for one number not to mention the additional instructions required for RM to apply the "keywords" in order to decode the message.
My conclusion is...I no longer believe the ciphers are a result of a 2 step encryption process requiring "keywords" because it makes harder for RM to complete his ultimate goal.
TB secured his messages by
1. using a book cipher where one must know the document, the document version and how the document was numbered. (Impossible)
2. TB also used multiple numbers for the same letters which deters using "frequency" as a method to decode the message from just the ciphers (almost impossible)
3. Separating the "key" from the ciphers by hundreds of miles (improbable)
While working on this, i did come up with a new theory...the person in st louis would know of Robert Morriss from the address on the letter so he could have
1. opened and read the letter,
2. traveled to Lynchburg, located and opened the box
3. replaced the lock,
4. decoded the location and
5. dug it up.
1. Write a message in plain text.
2. Apply a period encryption process: Caesar cipher, vigenere cipher, Gronsfeld cipher or a combination.
Purpose: scrambles the letters of the massage.
Cipher2/DOI did not apply any additional encryption.
3. Create a "key" using a book cipher.
Purpose: Convert the letters to numbers.
This "key" would be given to person in st. Louis.
4.Encrypt the message using the "key"
Purpose: Additional security to allow the "key" and ciphers to be separated.
The ciphers were given to Robert Morriss.
Let's pretend it's 1832 and Robert Morriss receives the "key" from St louis. RM finds a list of numbers with a letter assigned to each number. RM could easily decode the message, locate the treasure and give it to the heirs.
Since the Caesar cipher uses a fixed offset, it could be used and still allow RM to easily decode the message as described.
However, the Vigenere and Gronsfeld cipher has irregular offsets by using a "keyword" which produces multiple letters for one number not to mention the additional instructions required for RM to apply the "keywords" in order to decode the message.
My conclusion is...I no longer believe the ciphers are a result of a 2 step encryption process requiring "keywords" because it makes harder for RM to complete his ultimate goal.
TB secured his messages by
1. using a book cipher where one must know the document, the document version and how the document was numbered. (Impossible)
2. TB also used multiple numbers for the same letters which deters using "frequency" as a method to decode the message from just the ciphers (almost impossible)
3. Separating the "key" from the ciphers by hundreds of miles (improbable)
While working on this, i did come up with a new theory...the person in st louis would know of Robert Morriss from the address on the letter so he could have
1. opened and read the letter,
2. traveled to Lynchburg, located and opened the box
3. replaced the lock,
4. decoded the location and
5. dug it up.








