🥇 BANNER ULTRA RARE 1659 LORD BALTIMORE SILVER SIXPENCE DUG YESTERDAY!!!!!

Bill D. (VA)

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Wow — I don’t know where to begin as this was totally unexpected. My detecting bud Joey and I hooked up yesterday to make the long drive to a remote rural county where we’ve researched and hunted together before. After securing permission from the owner/farmer at a site Joey had been studying, we made our way to the expansive fields that overlooked the river. Joey’s research also revealed what he believed might be an early house site on a knoll about ¼ mile from the river’s edge. We began hunting there and quickly noticed that small iron and brick frags were spread out over a rather large area, but not really concentrated in any given spot. Our finds were rather paltry in number, and when we were leaving later in the day a hunter told us that a couple friends of his had been hunting that site methodically for years which explained the lack of finds.

Anyway, we picked up a few 17[SUP]th[/SUP] century buckle pieces, musketballs and some early pewter buttons but nothing of real significance. It was interesting to note that neither of us dug any flat or even tombac buttons which, along with the other finds, seemed to confirm this was a very early site that had been abandoned after being occupied for a limited time.

About halfway into the hunt I decided to make a big loop through the field between the knoll and the river. On the way back toward the knoll I tried to walk the most likely path the early settlers might have taken between the dwelling site and where we believed the early wharf might have been. But the field was absolutely dead silent until I was about 100 yards in front of the knoll when I got a nice hit that sounded like it might be another musketball. But as I flipped the dirt out of the hole I thought I caught a brief glimpse of what appeared to be a silver edge before it was re-covered. But I convinced myself that I was probably seeing things. Then when I finally located the target I was super excited to see that I had indeed unearthed a silver coin of some sort. As I picked it up with the dirt still clinging to it I saw a shield and immediately thought I might be holding an early 1700s pistareen. At that point I hollered over to Joey and headed toward where he was hunting. While on the way I flipped the coin over and the bust was very strange looking and I knew for sure this coin was not Spanish, or at least was one I did not recognize. I carefully removed more of the dirt to reveal more details, and my first thought was could this coin be an example of Lord Baltimore coinage? But that was probably very wishful thinking as there’s absolutely no way I could have recovered something so rare and valuable as that. Joey dismissed that idea as well and seemed to think it might be some obscure coin from a European country, and had me convinced that was the case as well. It was definitely a strange coin with no date and all the Latin inscriptions. So I plopped it in my padded keeper box and figured I could do some research on it when I got back home.

A little while later I got to thinking about the coin, and began to convince myself that it had a chance to be a Lord Baltimore specimen. I had just finished writing an article for one of the detecting magazines on the history of colonial silver coinage in Virginia, and it included a paragraph on these rare coins so I had some familiarity with them already. I also recounted from a few years ago when my friend Stan and his buddy Audie dug a Lord Baltimore silver groat and copper denarium, the latter which sold at auction for about $42,000. As Joey and I headed back to the truck for a lunch break I told him I was about 80% convinced my find was a Lord Baltimore coin. We both frantically got out our phones and quickly tried to verify, and Joey beat me to the punch. He was flabbergasted when he confirmed I had indeed just recovered a Lord Baltimore silver sixpence dating to 1659! This is one of the holy grails of US coins and we were both in complete shock. I later saw on the NGC website where it was stated that Lord Baltimore coinage is “decidedly rarer” than Massachusetts silver which confirmed what I already knew as these coins are almost impossible to find. Mine appears to be the Breen 68 variety and although it does have a few small spots of surface corrosion on both sides, I believe a professional coin cleaning can remedy that rather easily. But I’m definitely not going to mess with it myself (no electrolysis this time …. haha!). I also plan to have it authenticated, graded and slabbed. If anyone has any good recommendations for where to get this coin cleaned and authenticated please post your comments here. Thanks in advance for any input. And unfortunately the coin is holed (even though I think it gives it character) and that will likely detract from its value, but that’s not a major concern for me since it definitely WILL NOT be sold.

I thought I’d end with a little background on the history of this coin for those interested. Three denominations of silver coinage plus a copper denarium were minted in London in 1659 by authority of Cecil Calvert, the second Lord Baltimore, who believed he had the right to coin money for use in the huge tract of land he inherited which later became the colony of Maryland. His authority to issue these coins was challenged and he was arrested, and only a small number were ever produced before being confiscated by the Crown, but a very small number of these apparently got into circulation somehow and some must have made it to the colonies through the pockets of early settlers. So these are extremely rare finds here in the US as well as in the UK, and the 2 that Stan and Audie dug are the only other ones I’ve ever heard of being dug in this country. I’m still pinching myself as I never thought I’d ever dig one of these beauties. Hopefully this is a good omen for the rest of the season.
 

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HEAVYMETALNUT

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wow Bill! that's amazing man! congrats to you and the banner!
 

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Bill D. (VA)

Bill D. (VA)

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I've past through this coin, among many others in the Redbook and always wondered if I'd see one posted.... and I guess today is the day! :headbang: In the last few years the the rarer Colonials seem to be selling at a premium so this might have quite a bit more value than expected. Without question the best silver you have ever dug.

Thanks for all your comments IP. You're right - that is by far the best individual coin I've ever dug including all the hammereds. This coin has such a unique history and is so extremely rare that I doubt I could ever top it. I was just extremely fortunate that other hunters had missed it, and that my coil happened to pass over the right spot in a huge field. What are the odds??
 

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It was bound to happen eventually Bill with your research and dedication. Amazing recovery in outstanding condition! Cant wait to view it in person this spring. Definitely the most banner worthy find on the banner. Nice work.
-Evan
 

glassrelics

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I do believe that is the oldest silver coin I have seen anyone dig here in the US. WOW man, that's a find of a lifetime! AWESOME!:icon_thumright:
 

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My very first thoughts as well...& Still all I Can Think is WOW ..WOW .Just Awesome.

Also I can ' Imagine ' That back in Europe it was Sewn into someones clothing and was missed by the very
First Hand held Detectors as this person Boarded the ship. LOL

Very Cool

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Davers

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Also
If I were one of the Hunters , Detecting Pals , I never Forgive Myself for missing That One.

I hope they never read this ,only for their sake..

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Bill D. (VA)

Bill D. (VA)

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I do believe that is the oldest silver coin I have seen anyone dig here in the US. WOW man, that's a find of a lifetime! AWESOME!:icon_thumright:

Me and several of my buddies have dug a number of British hammered silver coins dating to the late 1500s. And although this one isn't quite as old, it's by far the best individual coin I've had the privilege of passing my coil over.
 

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Absolutely phenomenal !!!!!
Mega congrats! Congrats on making banner, you must have set a speed record! Well deserved!
Well I guess you'll be changing your avatar!

You give me hope! This hobby is fantastic! The next time some one mentions a placed is hunted out we're just going to mention your name, just your name, enough said.

We are looking forward to a full length article!
 

Steve in PA

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The hand of Lord Baltimore was guiding you over that coin. Now he's back in the news thanks to you Bill :laughing7:
 

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The Rebel

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WTG Bill an a simply amazing find! Bet you had a hard time sleeping last night!
 

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Amazing story, amazing find!!! Reading about finds such as yours is just as enjoyable as MDing. Congrats!!!!
 

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Bill D. (VA)

Bill D. (VA)

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Wow Bill! Can't tell you how happy I am for you. I'm really glad that somebody with great respect for history and this hobby makes a find like this. I am blown away at the history and the condition of that incredible find. Good things happen to good people my friend and sometimes GREAT things happen. Enjoy this incredible once in a lifetime find Bill. You've put in the hours and done it the right way

Thanks a lot Abe for all the kind words. You've been very supportive and helped me get through the summer doldrums. Now I hope some of that karma rubs off on you soon, and in a big way.
 

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WOWW...What an amazing, historically significant find Bill D. This is one of those coins that you stare at in "The Coin Book" and dream about finding or owning. A huge congrats and a Thank you for saving such a valuable piece of history!
 

Pointman

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I wonder if it is worth repairing the hole before you get it graded and slabbed?

PCGS could possibly help you with cleaning, repair and authenticating.
 

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Bill D. (VA)

Bill D. (VA)

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Holy Cow Bill, congrats on finding the holy grail of colonial coinage, and in a hunted out field to boot. It doesn't get much better then that.
I think you are off to a great start.:thumbsup:
ZDD

Thanks Dave. This coin was so far off the charts it never even crossed my mind that I might find one. Instead I've been focused on recovery of a whole tree coin or a colonial gold, but I think this one trumps them all based on the historical value alone. Now no matter what happens the rest of the season I can always look back to this find and consider 2014-15 a great success. And good luck to you guys up north. Supposed to be a very cold and snowy winter in the northeast so you better get out while you can.
 

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Well I was away all weekend come home relax jump on the forum to see what was found there is your AMAZING COIN on the Banner, Congrats on digging such rare, rare, rare coin :thumbsup:
 

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I wonder if it is worth repairing the hole before you get it graded and slabbed?

PCGS could possibly help you with cleaning, repair and authenticating.

Collectors wouldn't want a doctored coin. Leave as is or at least get it preserved.
 

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I was just extremely fortunate that other hunters had missed it, and that my coil happened to pass over the right spot in a huge field. What are the odds??


If there was only a formula to calculate that. How about you add all the holes that every digger in the US has dug metal detecting without finding one.... we'll just say 10 billion. Then we'll double that taking into account every detecting circumstance in your life from day one that lead you to finding the coin, including them missing it, and it just happening to be in the path you were swinging. So in my opinion the odds of finding that were 20 Billion to one. :)
 

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